Putting N on pasture

[pricefarm]

For those of U that have fesque pastures do any of u add any N for extra growth for fall grazing? If so how many pounds per acre and when? Iam thinking about the end of aug and putting around 30 pounds to the acre down. I haven't check on prices yet but I think I would get enough extra growth to pay for the expense.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Thirty pounds of fertilizer or thirty pounds of actual N per acre?

 

[pricefarm]

30 pounds of actual N

 

[dun]

The recommended amounts around here for fall application is 60 lbs/acre if there isn;t any clover. 30 lbs/acre if there is a good stand of clover

 

[skyhightree1]

For those of U that have fesque pastures do any of u add any N for extra growth for fall grazing? If so how many pounds per acre and when? Iam thinking about the end of aug and putting around 30 pounds to the acre down. I haven't check on prices yet but I think I would get enough extra growth to pay for the expense.

I add nitrogen in the spring and fall but I use liquid its lil over dollar a gallon for me.

 

[pricefarm]

Sky how gals per acre do U have to put on? There isn't really any liquid fert. available around here.

 

[kenny thomas]

I already have mine ordered. hope to put it on around September 1. I use coated urea and try to get around 50 of actual N per acre. I will not graze it until after Christmas.

 

[skyhightree1]

Sky how gals per acre do U have to put on? There isn't really any liquid fert. available around here.

30 per acre usually

 

[JMJ Farms]

A gallon of 32% N weighs 11.1 lbs per gallon and equals 3.6 pounds of actual N. Which means if you want 30 pounds per acre you would want to put down roughly 9 gallons per acre. At Sky's cost that wouldn't be too expensive.

 

[kenny thomas]

A gallon of 32% N weighs 11.1 lbs per gallon and equals 3.6 pounds of actual N. Which means if you want 30 pounds per acre you would want to put down roughly 9 gallons per acre. At Sky's cost that wouldn't be too expensive.

We have no opportunity to do liquid but that sure sounds cheaper than what I have to pay.

 

[JMJ Farms]

A gallon of 32% N weighs 11.1 lbs per gallon and equals 3.6 pounds of actual N. Which means if you want 30 pounds per acre you would want to put down roughly 9 gallons per acre. At Sky's cost that wouldn't be too expensive.

We have no opportunity to do liquid but that sure sounds cheaper than what I have to pay.

Sure does. I'm not doubting Sky's numbers at all but I don't think I can buy it for that here. Been a while since I checked on liquid N. I guess it's like the other thread on lime. Aaron, who is I north Georgia said it cost him $70/ton spread. Here I can get it for $32/ton spread. Just depends on where you are I reckon.

 

[skyhightree1]

Well I am in crop country here and we use quite a bit. It's like my side of the state has very lil stuff to do with cattle but there side is loaded down with cattle stuff.

 

[Stocker Steve]

I haven't check on prices yet but I think I would get enough extra growth to pay for the expense.

The # of DM per # N is always an interesting number.

How does additional forage cost compare to the cost of hay in your area?

 

[JW IN VA]

We've used liquid N in the past but in a dry time it can burn grass.Be sure to watch your Magnesium when grazing as there is some relationship between high N content and grass tetnay

 

[callmefence]

The recommended amounts around here for fall application is 60 lbs/acre if there isn;t any clover. 30 lbs/acre if there is a good stand of clover

What percentage of clover would you consider to be a good stand. Do you get the nitrogen credit the first year the clover is established?

 

[dun]

The recommended amounts around here for fall application is 60 lbs/acre if there isn;t any clover. 30 lbs/acre if there is a good stand of clover

What percentage of clover would you consider to be a good stand. Do you get the nitrogen credit the first year the clover is established?

Around 40%. Clover doesn;t release nitrogen at least the second year.

 

[callmefence]

The recommended amounts around here for fall application is 60 lbs/acre if there isn;t any clover. 30 lbs/acre if there is a good stand of clover

What percentage of clover would you consider to be a good stand. Do you get the nitrogen credit the first year the clover is established?

Around 40%. Clover doesn;t release nitrogen at least the second year.

Thanks I started redclover in my oat fields last fall. Probably had 15 percent clover. It did get a chance to go to seed. Sounds like I should probably seed and fertilize as usuall another year.

 

[Clodhopper]

We've used liquid N in the past but in a dry time it can burn grass.Be sure to watch your Magnesium when grazing as there is some relationship between high N content and grass tetnay

Do you use regular spray tips or fertilizer dribbler tips? The burn won't be bad with the dribblers, they'll put down streams about every 10" apart, as opposed to a solid cover with spray tips. The dribblers are what we use to topdress wheat. I always use urea on pasture myself.

 

[pricefarm]

I haven't check on prices yet but I think I would get enough extra growth to pay for the expense.

The # of DM per # N is always an interesting number.

How does additional forage cost compare to the cost of hay in your area?

It's hard to find good hay in my area. Most hay that's for sale is off of feilds that haven't been fert in years and didn't get mowed at the right time. 35-50$ is about the going rate for 4x5 rolls. I have plenty of hay but if I can extend my grazing I can sell my serpluse of hay. I have a man that has horses that buys all the hay I will sell him for 35$ a roll and that's for 4x4 rolls. It's good hay in the barn. So if I can buy fert and grow more grass cheap enough I can sell the hay and maybe make more money. Mybe Iam over thinking it and should just feed my hay and not fert the pasture for fall grazing ?

 

[Stocker Steve]

What percentage of clover would you consider to be a good stand. Do you get the nitrogen credit the first year the clover is established?

Around 40%.[/quote]

What is the downside of more than 40% clover?