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Abnormal Cattle Cycle Hits Herds
08/22/07 11:19
MANHATTAN, Kan. (DTN) -- Cattle producers have seen nine years of profits and in any normal cattle cycle, that would have led to cow herd expansion and falling prices. But we are not in a normal cattle cycle, James Mintert, Kansas State economist told DTN.

"The drought the past several years in Texas and the High Plains through Missouri has curtailed cow herd numbers. A year ago August, I was predicting we'd start to see expansion in 2007 as the rain returned to those areas. But now I don't see any expansion on the horizon," Mintert said.

Rising feed costs are now trimming expansion plans. The cost of summer pasture (lease rates) has increased 16 percent over the past five years, according to Kansas State University survey.

"In 2007, the survey said pasture rental rates were up only 5 percent. But I think they have gone up more for those negotiating a new agreement," explained Mintert. "The survey contains a lot of long-term leases.

"I don't think it's unreasonable to predict a 25-percent increase in forage-based feeding program costs," Mintert said. "The breakeven for calves has gone from a historical $1/cwt. breakeven to $1.15 to $1.17 now and I would say if the grain market stays strong, we'll see a $1.20/cwt. breakeven. That's keeping a lot of cow/calf producers hesitant about expanding their herds.

"The strong grain market puts an intense pressure on landowners to put land in crop production. And the price of alternate feed sources are high," Mintert said. "The cost of harvesting hay will likely increase 25 percent to 30 percent. Fuel and utility costs have doubled."

Using total costs (labor, opportunity cost of capital, depreciation, feed costs, etc.) Kansas State estimates cost per cow at $670 per head. "It used to be $500 per head," Mintert said.

Breakeven for calves next year is estimated at $115 to $118 per hundredweight. "If prices stay in the low $100s, we could see the beef industry actually reduce inventory," Mintert noted.

Lenders may also have an influence in keeping cow numbers in check. "The capital requirement for maintaining the current size of a herd is ratcheting upward. That alone may put the brakes on expansion. If you add the lack of economic incentive to expand, I don't see a lot of lenders allowing cow herds to increase," said Leo Schlitz with the Caldwell State Bank in Caldwell, Kan.

"At $120/cwt. calf prices for 500 to 600 pound steers in 2007, producers are making about $50 to $60 profit per head. That's a far cry from the 2004 profits of $100 to $200 per head," Mintert said. "It's still a profit, but with expectations of rising feed costs, I expect cattle inventory numbers to stay steady."
 
"Using total costs (labor, opportunity cost of capital, depreciation, feed costs, etc.) Kansas State estimates cost per cow at $670 per head. "It used to be $500 per head," Mintert said.

Breakeven for calves next year is estimated at $115 to $118 per hundredweight. "If prices stay in the low $100s, we could see the beef industry actually reduce inventory," Mintert noted."

I agree. Folks are going to have to back off some on these stocking rates and maybe back a little down on these frame sizes so they don't have to spend as much on carrying cows through the winter with these grain prices. I think fuel prices are going to stay up, leading to grain prices staying up. The industry is just going to have to adapt to ~$4 corn.
 
MikeC":10vucuxo said:
"The drought the past several years in Texas and the High Plains through Missouri has curtailed cow herd numbers. A year ago August, I was predicting we'd start to see expansion in 2007 as the rain returned to those areas. But now I don't see any expansion on the horizon," Mintert said.

Mike he must have been looking at me. I could graze another 200 head right now if I had them. It is a wet year. There are many rebulding right now. Don't know where all these white face brindles are coming from but they are showing up in pastures all around the county.
 
MikeC":cqgetyf6 said:
Abnormal Cattle Cycle Hits Herds
08/22/07 11:19
MANHATTAN, Kan. (DTN) -- Cattle producers have seen nine years of profits and in any normal cattle cycle, that would have led to cow herd expansion and falling prices. But we are not in a normal cattle cycle, James Mintert, Kansas State economist told DTN.

"The drought the past several years in Texas and the High Plains through Missouri has curtailed cow herd numbers. A year ago August, I was predicting we'd start to see expansion in 2007 as the rain returned to those areas. But now I don't see any expansion on the horizon," Mintert said.

Rising feed costs are now trimming expansion plans. The cost of summer pasture (lease rates) has increased 16 percent over the past five years, according to Kansas State University survey.

"In 2007, the survey said pasture rental rates were up only 5 percent. But I think they have gone up more for those negotiating a new agreement," explained Mintert. "The survey contains a lot of long-term leases.

"I don't think it's unreasonable to predict a 25-percent increase in forage-based feeding program costs," Mintert said. "The breakeven for calves has gone from a historical $1/cwt. breakeven to $1.15 to $1.17 now and I would say if the grain market stays strong, we'll see a $1.20/cwt. breakeven. That's keeping a lot of cow/calf producers hesitant about expanding their herds.

"The strong grain market puts an intense pressure on landowners to put land in crop production. And the price of alternate feed sources are high," Mintert said. "The cost of harvesting hay will likely increase 25 percent to 30 percent. Fuel and utility costs have doubled."

Using total costs (labor, opportunity cost of capital, depreciation, feed costs, etc.) Kansas State estimates cost per cow at $670 per head. "It used to be $500 per head," Mintert said.

Breakeven for calves next year is estimated at $115 to $118 per hundredweight. "If prices stay in the low $100s, we could see the beef industry actually reduce inventory," Mintert noted.

Lenders may also have an influence in keeping cow numbers in check. "The capital requirement for maintaining the current size of a herd is ratcheting upward. That alone may put the brakes on expansion. If you add the lack of economic incentive to expand, I don't see a lot of lenders allowing cow herds to increase," said Leo Schlitz with the Caldwell State Bank in Caldwell, Kan.

"At $120/cwt. calf prices for 500 to 600 pound steers in 2007, producers are making about $50 to $60 profit per head. That's a far cry from the 2004 profits of $100 to $200 per head," Mintert said. "It's still a profit, but with expectations of rising feed costs, I expect cattle inventory numbers to stay steady."
this statement is very true.the high feed prices are going to control what the feedlots feed.as well as how much they give for the feeder calves.in normal cycles the market shouldve been in the downward turn.but the droughts in differant areas of the country have forced mass sale offs of cattle.an the droughts could go on for awhile.bottomline is it could take 10yrs to get the nations cow herd built back up to where it needs tobe.everyone will be looking for cheaper feed sources.
 
backhoeboogie":kcx2436z said:
MikeC":kcx2436z said:
"The drought the past several years in Texas and the High Plains through Missouri has curtailed cow herd numbers. A year ago August, I was predicting we'd start to see expansion in 2007 as the rain returned to those areas. But now I don't see any expansion on the horizon," Mintert said.

Mike he must have been looking at me. I could graze another 200 head right now if I had them. It is a wet year. There are many rebulding right now. Don't know where all these white face brindles are coming from but they are showing up in pastures all around the county.

Same over this way you see Brangus and Super baldie breeding heifers are at top dollar here. Bred cows are still bringing high dollar at Crockett as that area was hard hit by the drought last year.
 

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