Price to break horse?

[tom4018]

What is the going rate to pay to break a horse? Got one that needs more than we can give it time wise and talking to different people and seem to get a wide price range.

 

[certherfbeef]

Sent a pair of younguns' to a guy and supplied feed, Charged me $300 a head for 30 days each. Did an excellent job. They were green broke when he was done and I finished them. He asked what we were planning on doing with them. I told him NO arena work. They spent the first 2 days in the arena, the rest of the training was done around cattle and in the woods. When he was done I could shoot a 22 mag off coth of them and they wouldn't flick an ear. That was also 5 years ago.

 

[kaneranch]

Sent on of my fillies to a guy for about 90 days and I paid $550.
He did an excelent job. The filly was finished when I got her back.
Thanks KaneRanch

 

[Hillary_Indiana]

Everyone I call around wants to charge me 700 for 30 days of training. And that's for a horse that's ALL READY green broke. :shock:

From South-Central IN

Hillary

 

[Running Arrow Bill]

Seems like around in our part of the country the going rate is about $500 to 650 for a month's of board and training. The stable/facility gets most of the money ($300 to 400 a month) the rest usually paid direct to the trainer ($200 to 300). Seems like the facility avoids the "employee"/IRS issue (?) by having you pay trainer separate.

It irks me significantly since OUR costs to board our horses at our place run around $50 to 75 a month (plus farrier, vaccinations, etc.), those facilities are cleaning up with their fees. Sure...they have overhead and insurance...we do too...

Then, if you can even FIND a trainer to come to your place, they want their regular $50 an hour or so, plus travel, per deim, and spending money...lol. YOU CAN'T WIN with this training situation unless you do your OWN training...and most of us can't or don't want to do our own training for a variety of reasons.

 

[kaneranch]

There is a guy around here that charges 20 dollars a ride. That is pretty resonable for what he does. Thanks Kaneranch

 

[msscamp]

Seems like around in our part of the country the going rate is about $500 to 650 for a month's of board and training. The stable/facility gets most of the money ($300 to 400 a month) the rest usually paid direct to the trainer ($200 to 300). Seems like the facility avoids the "employee"/IRS issue (?) by having you pay trainer separate.

It irks me significantly since OUR costs to board our horses at our place run around $50 to 75 a month (plus farrier, vaccinations, etc.), those facilities are cleaning up with their fees. Sure...they have overhead and insurance...we do too...

Then, if you can even FIND a trainer to come to your place, they want their regular $50 an hour or so, plus travel, per deim, and spending money...lol. YOU CAN'T WIN with this training situation unless you do your OWN training...and most of us can't or don't want to do our own training for a variety of reasons.

Horses are NOT cheap! You want horses, you better be prepared to pay for them. Even if you do your own training, they are still very expensive animals.

PS Up here it will cost you anywhere from 300.00 for 30 days to 1000.00 for 90 days and when you get the horse back it's still pretty much of a crap shoot. Maybe they are green broke and rideable and maybe they aren't. Plus you have to deal with the things that the trainer taught them that you don't know about and/or don't do such as voice commands, etc.

 

[tom4018]

I guess the $250 price is pretty reasonable that I was quoted then. Thanks for the information.

 

[Running Arrow Bill]

Seems like around in our part of the country the going rate is about $500 to 650 for a month's of board and training. The stable/facility gets most of the money ($300 to 400 a month) the rest usually paid direct to the trainer ($200 to 300). Seems like the facility avoids the "employee"/IRS issue (?) by having you pay trainer separate.

It irks me significantly since OUR costs to board our horses at our place run around $50 to 75 a month (plus farrier, vaccinations, etc.), those facilities are cleaning up with their fees. Sure...they have overhead and insurance...we do too...

Then, if you can even FIND a trainer to come to your place, they want their regular $50 an hour or so, plus travel, per deim, and spending money...lol. YOU CAN'T WIN with this training situation unless you do your OWN training...and most of us can't or don't want to do our own training for a variety of reasons.

Horses are NOT cheap! You want horses, you better be prepared to pay for them. Even if you do your own training, they are still very expensive animals.

PS Up here it will cost you anywhere from 300.00 for 30 days to 1000.00 for 90 days and when you get the horse back it's still pretty much of a crap shoot. Maybe they are green broke and rideable and maybe they aren't. Plus you have to deal with the things that the trainer taught them that you don't know about and/or don't do such as voice commands, etc.

That's true, Camp! Horses are not cheap. However, it seems that if it is called "Horse" people and services charge extra or more. True...you don't have to do cattle hooves every 2 months, do Coggins, buy tack and stuff. Yet, a 1000# horse will eat about the same as a 1000# bovine and take up about the same amount of space on one's place. Yes, horses in modern society tend to be pampered a lot. And, they need to be trained to be useful to most people...

 

[Running Arrow Bill]

The horse world is a Two Class Society: The have's and the havenots. Probbly 99% of people owning horses either break even or lose money. Probably only the top 1% actually make any real money. Unlike cattle where just about anyone (with a little effort, judgment, and common sense and luck) can either break even or make a few bucks. And, with cattle, you can always eat your "cull" and/or take your lower end animals to the Sale Barn to pay for next month's hay and other bills.

Yes, the horse business is neurotic, unfair, arrogant, expensive, frequently more "show" than "tell", and all. It is a lifestyle for the rich and famous and perhaps the foolish...excusing of course, the "real" horse people that have and use horses for "real" work and purposes along with pleasure from riding. Shows, competition, fanfair, ostentatious displays, etc., -- all ego enhancers to feed the competitive spirit of owners, show people, and audiences. It is a multi-billion dollar market to (especially) fatten the wallets of the feed, tack, supplement, services people, businesses, and manufacturers.

Yes...I/we love our own horses. Just think the entire equine industry is, has been, and will be a financial rip-off for the vast majority of all horse loving people the world over.

Bottomline: The horse business sucks!

 

[kaneranch]

Well Said running arrow bill! Don't think I have made a dime off a horse yet, but I still come back for more. TO be in the horse market you do have to have a little business savy to you. Horses to most are more of a hobby than a business. People spend their whole life putting every paycheck they earn to get more and better horses. BUt I can't talk, because I am one of those people!
THanks Kaneranch

 

[oscar p]

A young horse has the attention spand of a child (about an hour) I ride a colt one hour a day, every day,( if its raining I ride in the barn), for thirty days in the round pen, and carry him on two public trail rides, for 350.00, you pay to have him shod.Anything over an hour and you start to loose his attention. In my judgement you can teach a colt more riding him one hour a day,every day than you can riding him one day for five hours.

 

[Wilson_Cattle_Company]

Everyone I call around wants to charge me 700 for 30 days of training. And that's for a horse that's ALL READY green broke. :shock:

From South-Central IN

Hillary

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! :x :x :x :mad: :mad: :?:

700 or 30 days?!?!?!?!?

I charge 500 for 30 days w/ green brake. man you got some expensive people in ur part of the world.

 

[msscamp]

Seems like around in our part of the country the going rate is about $500 to 650 for a month's of board and training. The stable/facility gets most of the money ($300 to 400 a month) the rest usually paid direct to the trainer ($200 to 300). Seems like the facility avoids the "employee"/IRS issue (?) by having you pay trainer separate.

It irks me significantly since OUR costs to board our horses at our place run around $50 to 75 a month (plus farrier, vaccinations, etc.), those facilities are cleaning up with their fees. Sure...they have overhead and insurance...we do too...

Then, if you can even FIND a trainer to come to your place, they want their regular $50 an hour or so, plus travel, per deim, and spending money...lol. YOU CAN'T WIN with this training situation unless you do your OWN training...and most of us can't or don't want to do our own training for a variety of reasons.

Horses are NOT cheap! You want horses, you better be prepared to pay for them. Even if you do your own training, they are still very expensive animals.

PS Up here it will cost you anywhere from 300.00 for 30 days to 1000.00 for 90 days and when you get the horse back it's still pretty much of a crap shoot. Maybe they are green broke and rideable and maybe they aren't. Plus you have to deal with the things that the trainer taught them that you don't know about and/or don't do such as voice commands, etc.

That's true, Camp! Horses are not cheap. However, it seems that if it is called "Horse" people and services charge extra or more. True...you don't have to do cattle hooves every 2 months, do Coggins, buy tack and stuff. Yet, a 1000# horse will eat about the same as a 1000# bovine and take up about the same amount of space on one's place. Yes, horses in modern society tend to be pampered a lot. And, they need to be trained to be useful to most people...

All very true points, RAB. I am at somewhat of a loss to explain it.

 

[Alan]

Seems like around in our part of the country the going rate is about $500 to 650 for a month's of board and training. The stable/facility gets most of the money ($300 to 400 a month) the rest usually paid direct to the trainer ($200 to 300). Seems like the facility avoids the "employee"/IRS issue (?) by having you pay trainer separate.

It irks me significantly since OUR costs to board our horses at our place run around $50 to 75 a month (plus farrier, vaccinations, etc.), those facilities are cleaning up with their fees. Sure...they have overhead and insurance...we do too...

Then, if you can even FIND a trainer to come to your place, they want their regular $50 an hour or so, plus travel, per deim, and spending money...lol. YOU CAN'T WIN with this training situation unless you do your OWN training...and most of us can't or don't want to do our own training for a variety of reasons.

Horses are NOT cheap! You want horses, you better be prepared to pay for them. Even if you do your own training, they are still very expensive animals.

PS Up here it will cost you anywhere from 300.00 for 30 days to 1000.00 for 90 days and when you get the horse back it's still pretty much of a crap shoot. Maybe they are green broke and rideable and maybe they aren't. Plus you have to deal with the things that the trainer taught them that you don't know about and/or don't do such as voice commands, etc.

That's true, Camp! Horses are not cheap. However, it seems that if it is called "Horse" people and services charge extra or more. True...you don't have to do cattle hooves every 2 months, do Coggins, buy tack and stuff. Yet, a 1000# horse will eat about the same as a 1000# bovine and take up about the same amount of space on one's place. Yes, horses in modern society tend to be pampered a lot. And, they need to be trained to be useful to most people...

As a kid in the 70's I worked a short time in gas station. An air filter for a 1970s chev pickup may have been $5, a filter for a 1970's cadillac was $12 (or so), they where the same filter, out of the same box, the difference was what car you put it in. So as it is with the cattle world vs the horse world. Horse owners will be charged more because they will pay the price.

I pay a seasoned 4 h kid to start my horses, they spend 30 to 90 days on them. I do all the ground work and pre-ride work myself. Including first saddling and getting use to the bit. Then I turn them over to a good rider, the seasoned 4 H kid (they have better balance and bounce better at their age). They do all the work at my place and I watch most of the works, so I can correct anything I feel I need to, and they listen very well. I don't throw just any kid on the backs and say good luck, the horses are very use to the saddle and rein pressure. The first young lady was a 4 h instructor and now I'm using a 18 yr young lady who just graduated for high school and is a 3 time state champ in barrels and other gaming events. She can ride very well! I pay $10 a ride at my place and after 10 to 20 rides (when I feel like I won't be getting off the ground) I start getting on to increase workouts. This works very well for me and is how I'll continue to "start" my horses.

JMO
Alan

 

[totalloss]

i have a walking horse stud i sent to 4 trainers and he still came back un-broke.over the years i have found a common denominator among horse trainers ,they lie!!!
i heard of some people that were good.i took my stud to them,they charged me $250.,10 bales of hay,5 bags of feed i took with me to deliver him.i picked him up 7 weeks later,dead broke. my 5 year old grandson can ride him.these people were in the AMISH community of ethridge tn.

 

[msscamp]

i have a walking horse stud i sent to 4 trainers and he still came back un-broke.over the years i have found a common denominator among horse trainers ,they lie!!!

Not all of them lie. There are good horse trainers out there, they can be difficult to find, however.

i heard of some people that were good.i took my stud to them,they charged me $250.,10 bales of hay,5 bags of feed i took with me to deliver him.i picked him up 7 weeks later,dead broke. my 5 year old grandson can ride him.these people were in the AMISH community of ethridge tn.

Congratulations! :)

 

[tapeworm]

i have a walking horse stud i sent to 4 trainers and he still came back un-broke.over the years i have found a common denominator among horse trainers ,they lie!!!
i heard of some people that were good.i took my stud to them,they charged me $250.,10 bales of hay,5 bags of feed i took with me to deliver him.i picked him up 7 weeks later,dead broke. my 5 year old grandson can ride him.these people were in the AMISH community of ethridge tn.

Man you sure enough got a bargain..I wish I could find somebody liek that. I remember when I was a do ityourselfer...then I remember when we could get the high school boys to come our and ride in the evenings..or even skip school and ride all day...ride the rough ones to...just for fun. Now you cant even pay em to do it.There all to busy ridin around listening to loud music thumping and smoking stinkweed and getting metal put in there faces i wouldnt have in a fancy headstall..the ears is bad enough...one kid even got a deal dangling off his eyebrow...you can see him for miles and miles when the suns shining...like hes got a Coors light can hanging off his face. His daddy shoulda cut him so he dont ever breed. Ride a rough colt?? Not likely..not getting on anything of mine anyhow

 

[Wilson_Cattle_Company]

The horse world is a Two Class Society: The have's and the havenots. Probbly 99% of people owning horses either break even or lose money. Probably only the top 1% actually make any real money. Unlike cattle where just about anyone (with a little effort, judgment, and common sense and luck) can either break even or make a few bucks. And, with cattle, you can always eat your "cull" and/or take your lower end animals to the Sale Barn to pay for next month's hay and other bills.

Yes, the horse business is neurotic, unfair, arrogant, expensive, frequently more "show" than "tell", and all. It is a lifestyle for the rich and famous and perhaps the foolish...excusing of course, the "real" horse people that have and use horses for "real" work and purposes along with pleasure from riding. Shows, competition, fanfair, ostentatious displays, etc., -- all ego enhancers to feed the competitive spirit of owners, show people, and audiences. It is a multi-billion dollar market to (especially) fatten the wallets of the feed, tack, supplement, services people, businesses, and manufacturers.

Yes...I/we love our own horses. Just think the entire equine industry is, has been, and will be a financial rip-off for the vast majority of all horse loving people the world over.

Bottomline: The horse business sucks!

I love the horse business but I could not have said it any better my self! It SUCKS!!

 

[ALACOWMAN]

i have a walking horse stud i sent to 4 trainers and he still came back un-broke.over the years i have found a common denominator among horse trainers ,they lie!!!
i heard of some people that were good.i took my stud to them,they charged me $250.,10 bales of hay,5 bags of feed i took with me to deliver him.i picked him up 7 weeks later,dead broke. my 5 year old grandson can ride him.these people were in the AMISH community of ethridge tn.

No wonder have you seen how much work a amish horse does in a day. there working even when there on break. you can bet those horses earn there keep.