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Kyle,
You just go right on with that Vetericyn. It's not gonna hurt anything. Nothing wrong with 'flushing' a wound or a 'pinkeye' eye with it.
I'm just saying it's not 'magic', and the wonderful healing properties folks attribute to it are wishful thinking or make-believe. But, sometimes, perception is reality.

I've had a look at Vetericyn's MSDS(Material Safety Data Sheet). It's composition is, as follows:
96.3% Water
<0.1% Sodium hypochlorite (the active ingredient of chlorine bleach)
<0.1% Hypochlorous acid (formed when you dilute NaOCL(chlorine bleach) in water)
0.3% Sodium sulfate
0.5% Boric acid (commonly used as an eyewash, though typically as a 'dilute' 1.5% solution, which is 3 times stronger than what's in this bottle of liquid solution)
3.0% Sodium Magnesium Fluorosilicate - a dispersing/suspension compound used in the gel formulation.

The 'active ingredients' - sodium hypochlorite and hypochlorous acid are present in exceedingly low concentrations (LESS THAN 1/10 of 1 percent of the solution)- and could conceivably be replicated by merely diluting out simple chlorine bleach(sodium hypochlorite solution) in water - but, wait, the Vetericyn folks generate theirs by passing an electric current through a dilute aqueous solution of NaCL(salt water) - hence it's magical healing properties and greater cost, I guess.

But, you could just dilute 1ml of plain ol' chlorine bleach (standard 5% solution) in 1 liter of water ( I believe I did the math correctly) and get essentially the same thing. But, if you didn't pay $30 for a half-liter, would you IMAGINE that it was working?

Now, as to the 'old-timey remedies', like salt, diesel fuel, etc. - I'm sure some of those animals survived, and probably healed up IN SPITE of what was done to them. Without a 'control group' that got no 'treatment', who knows if time to resolution was shortened or lengthened. Old-timers/granddad knew some things - and some of that knowledge is important, but I doubt they had much knowledge about wound healing or immune responses.
Mastitis treatments probably are OK - but they're not formulated for use in the eye.
 
Lucky,

I won't dare argue with you as it pertains to the chemical makeup of the stuff I just know it always seems to help when I use it on something. Is it possible that simply flushing the wound out with the solution is what makes it work so well? A very wise old lady who had been in the horse business for 60 years used to always tell the best treatment for any laceration is to run cold water over it. I always thought she was a bit crazy but there was no one better at getting problematic mares in foal.

Kyle
 
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twr,
that's exactly the effect. I can almost assure you that there's not enough of anything in it to really do anything effective - but if you're frequently flushing the eye - or a wound - it's probably helpful.
I don't have any issue with folks using it - it won't hurt anything; I just have some major issues with the almost 'magical' properties so many folks attribute to it.
Guess I'd feel kind of guilty if I were marketing a product at $30/pint that's nothing more than very dilute bleach water. But, there are a lot of gullible folks out there...
 
Lucky,

Maybe we should invent our own product and market it as the "next miracle drug"! I handle marketing if you handle the scientific side of things. We won't charge people a dime over $15 dollars for the diluted bleach water! Lol

Kyle
 
I am in agreement with Allforage. Draxxin is expensive, about 3.80 per cc and you use 1.1 cc's per hundred pounds. It is very good with treating pinkeye and a couple of vets told me it actually will help bring back some sight after the sight has been damaged. Draxxin has taken care of each pinkeye case that I have used it on.
 
stocky":3oml179o said:
I am in agreement with Allforage. Draxxin is expensive, about 3.80 per cc and you use 1.1 cc's per hundred pounds. It is very good with treating pinkeye and a couple of vets told me it actually will help bring back some sight after the sight has been damaged. Draxxin has taken care of each pinkeye case that I have used it on.
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Another time where the more expensive good medicines are well worth every penny.
 
tnwalkingred":23ipjl7w said:
How do you administer the Draxxin? Just like a normal shot or do you put it in the eye?

Kyle
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SQ just like the bottle reads. The only in the eye treatment I have heard of is oil based mastitis treatments . I think most who use it say it is only effective during first sign of tearing.

I will have a whole bottle if draxxin before I start calving in May for sure!
 
Calhoun Farm":8bk9cdci said:
I don't see how you boys afford that stuff (draxxin).

valley vet has 50ml for $236 and 100ml for $447.
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Well it's one shot and done.

What is your time and hassle worth running cows/calves through handling facilities, making them wild by putting shots in the eyelids, and multiple treatments possibly? It is what it is.
 
Same here, SQ like the label says. The price I pay is what Denver said for 100cc or right at 900 dollars for 250cc. I can shoot Draxxin with a dart wherever the calf is, so I do not have to catch it. The LA-300 does not shoot well through a dart, plus it takes 4.5 cc per hundred pounds instead of 1.1 with Draxxin, so it would take several darts, if it would go through them. It is way more expensive than I would like, but it still works best for me.
 
jerry27150":20xrpc7z said:
I would try some aureomycin crumbles in their feed or mineral
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That's actually not a bad idea, seems like I used the crumbles last summer and it combined with LA worked pretty good.
 
Got the calves up Monday for another round of pinkeye check and one of my dad's has it pretty bad. Called vet and he thinks its respiratory related. He's coming out tomorrow to doctor the calf. Just for peace of mind we sprayed down the walls, ground and head shot with bleach last night. Hopefully that will kill anything they've picked up from the stock barn. I'll update the post when the vet comes.
 
For some reason I'm getting a lot of bad eyes this spring as well. One calf 2 months old is blind in both eyes and now I'm seeing a few cows with white eyes/watery eyes. I wonder if it's the dry windy weather or if it's ibr or something. I've been vaccinating for ibr for several years.
 

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