Pigs

[kenny thomas]

As long as they don't disappear and join their feral cousins...

He actually doesn't have any feral hogs, yet. I dont either, yet.

 

[greybeard]

He actually doesn't have any feral hogs, yet. I dont either, yet.

want some? I drove by a yard in this subdiv just yesterday that had gotten a nocturnal visit by what looked like a big rototiller.

I never really got into raising pork but I helped now deceased brother-in-law with a couple of hairy/wooley looking things once. Manga something.
Ugly, especially when it rained and they got into the mud.

 

[Dave]

If you want to get CAB premiums, you'll need something homo for black...

There is no CAB for pork. It is CHAP. Certified Hog's A$$ Pork. And there is no color requirement..... yet

 

[Travlr]

There is no CAB for pork. It is CHAP. Certified Hog's A$$ Pork. And there is no color requirement..... yet

Is that pronounced "shap"... like the batwings/stovepipes worn by cowboys when they are working? Or "chap" like an English guy draining a pint at a pub?

 

[Dave]

The Spotted Poland China association has seen what the Angus people have accomplished. They are considering starting CSAP (certiified spotted a$$ pork). We will have to wait to see how that plays out.

 

[mwj]

You will quickly find that you have no knowledge of fence building. They will also resist instructions to just root in the fallen nuts and the cow pies. Go into the pastured pigs with a good since of humor and a backup plan. Pigs are intelligent and persistent which can be good or bad.

 

[Ky hills]

He actually doesn't have any feral hogs, yet. I dont either, yet.

They might be closer to y’all than ou want them to be. Per the FW folks there are pockets of feral hogs in several places in KY including the Big Southfork National Park area.
We don’t have any yet either but looks like there are some north south and to the west of us.

 

[greybeard]

If you build it, THEY will come..........

 

[mwj]

Hogs are ''feral'' when they become unfenced. The majority of the wild hogs ancestors were domestic at some point in time.

 

[Named'em Tamed'em]

We raised Reg. Hereford pigs and cattle for awhile. This sow was so sweet and smart, take her on walks.

 

[ClinchValley86]

Birkshire Is probably the best tasting. Cross your red with that.
Birks and Yorks are some of the better mothers. Durocs and Hamps will add length (loin)

are all the ***shires preferred breeds?

 

[ClinchValley86]

The breeds you guys mention are the best for fed hogs. I think some like the Red Waddle or Old Spot might be better for pasture pigs with no feed. Im pretty sure he will be selling them hanging weight at a price i can't imagine.

You know me... I'll probably try some without feed. But will likely do grained pork too. I like to cater to everyone.

 

[mwj]

Look at post #30, that ''picture'' will sell more pork than any feed. Promote there care and surroundings and very few will ask what you feed. Sell the program that is where the money is.

 

[ClinchValley86]

With several products its the program not the product. I might be wrong about clinchvalley86 doing pasture pigs but im betting with his customer base he is thinking about it.
But think of it this way.
He will have very little expense i them if pastured with his cows.
They will root up the cow piles breaking up the fly cycle.
He has the customer base to sell them at 3 times what they would bring otherwise.
Its a win win to have a few

right now they're in the barn getting fed.

The people i got them from sell pasture poultry. Chickens, dicks, and turkeys. Their turkeys sold for $7.50 per pound this Thanksgiving. They gave me one and it was hands down the best I've ever eaten. The one I got weighed 29 pounds frozen with the extra stuff inside. They sold 20 of them and gave away 5. That's absurd money. No way I'd ever buy one.

If I can do something with grown forage, I'm game to try. I'm not at all interested in paying for organic feed or non-gmo feed or anything like that.

I've got 30 acres of woodland not being used a bit. The idea of running pigs on it sounds great to me. That'd what if like to try... I'll give them some feed if I need to.

Stuff is getting so expensive that I am starting to feel bad about the price I've got to charge to make it worth the effort. Margin is not near what it was a couple years ago.

 

[ClinchValley86]

Look at post #30, that ''picture'' will sell more pork than any feed. Promote there care and surroundings and very few will ask what you feed. Sell the program that is where the money is.

100% That's a perfect picture.

I do have a conscious about pricing. Don't want anyone to think otherwise.

 

[Named'em Tamed'em]

Look at post #30, that ''picture'' will sell more pork than any feed. Promote there care and surroundings and very few will ask what you feed. Sell the program that is where the money is.

My wife would get $300 each for registered weiner pigs. Sold them all over the PNW, they went to Oregon, Idaho, Utah, California, Montana and Washington of course. People from Utah showed up in a $60k living quarters horse trailer to pick up a 3 months old boar. One Saturday I castrated 3, 4 month old boars. I shytt you not the next day I had two people wanting registered boars. I'm so lucky.

 

[mwj]

As far as raising them on forage it will not work. They will eat grass, weeds,nuts and many other things but you will have to feed them. There digestive system is a lot like ours. You could not survive on salads and a handful of nuts for very long. They will work hard to find things to eat but it will look like a minefield when they are done. They are very neat animals and very good convertors of feed. They are happy to eat old bread or bakery goods food waste dairy byproducts or many other cheap feeds. You will have a lot of fun getting an education.

 

[Travlr]

are all the ***shires preferred breeds?

I worked with some people from Belgium, and IMO the Belgians have hands down the most knowledge of genetics and breeding, etc. of any country in the world.
Even though we were working with chickens and beef cattle at the time, I remember a conversation about pigs where they said the best commercial houses used Landrace for the length of their body and the number of nipples on the sows so they could nurse as many pigs as possible. They mostly crossed with Yorkshire for the heavy hams, but the other ***shire breeds were used too. They never use Duroc because the breed was too short bodied even though they are heavily muscled. That's all I remember of the conversation...

 

[SBMF 2015]

are all the ***shires preferred breeds?

Yes probably. Plus Durocs and Chesters

 

[farmerjan]

want some? I drove by a yard in this subdiv just yesterday that had gotten a nocturnal visit by what looked like a big rototiller.

I never really got into raising pork but I helped now deceased brother-in-law with a couple of hairy/wooley looking things once. Manga something.
Ugly, especially when it rained and they got into the mud.

Mangalista's probably... very wooly/long haired type... slow growing... supposed to be good pork to eat.