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Scenario - You have a cow that has been exposed to a bull. You have seen the bull in action on the cow. You know that if she is bred, it has been about 2.5 months since conception. You take her to the vet. He palpates and says she is open :x . Do you believe the vet and let the cow grow wheels right away? Or do you keep her around a while just to make sure? I'm hoping for many opinions on this one.

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Scenario - You have a cow that has been exposed to a bull. You have seen the bull in action on the cow. You know that if she is bred, it has been about 2.5 months since conception. You take her to the vet. He palpates and says she is open :x . Do you believe the vet and let the cow grow wheels right away? Or do you keep her around a while just to make sure? I'm hoping for many opinions on this one.

george
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Keep her around just to make sure. Vets are not known to be the best AI or Palpation specialists.
 
Did she cycle again after the service? Do you trust your vet? Is it worth the expense of another opinion? Is there a possibility of early abortion? Is there a reason that you are reluctant to sell her? Is there a reason not to wait and give her another shot next breeding season? Are you a "ruthless" culler? Is the bull sound for breeding (semen tested)? Are the bull and the cow closely related? Several things to consider. We are not generally "ruthless" cullers, and will give them another shot, especially if we are fond of the cow. But we also trust our vet, and if he said she was open, we would make our decision based on the knowledge that she is open.
 
What number calf will this be for her? Is it her second third etc..... If she has been a consistant producer with a positive history in your herd, I'd let her run for the season. If she ends up being open then more burger for the freezer.
 
This is one of those deals that to me comes down to your forage supply. If you have the feed and can carry her without undo costs you could hold on to her if shes one of those special cows. Otherwise I would have her rechecked in 30 days and if she's still open or if she comes into heat she'ld grow wheels.

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I agree that showing heat or not would be a key factor for me. Big cows/small cows/heifers all can be missed even by an experienced vet. Our vet was preg checking several years ago and a small heifer checked as open after a good feel. She calved just fine about 6 months later. If she was marginal and you need to cull some anyway and the rest are all bred--to me that might be different. Good luck!
 
Palpation accuracy is the single biggest complaints I hear about all vets. One vet that's highly regarded for her skills at palpation called a Holstein open that should have been bred. Two weeks later she dropped twins while she was waiting to go into the milk parlor. No matter how good they are, every once in a while one will slip past and come up bred that is open or vice verse.

dun
 

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