OPINIONS ON THIS BULL (VIDEO)

[ROB]

i kinda like this bull - any thoughts?



http://www.superiorlivestock.com/videoc ... =Braunvieh

thanks,
ROB

 

[ANAZAZI]

Good bull I think. How old is it?

 

[ROB]

Anazazi- video clip says feb. '07

ROB

 

[ANAZAZI]

Than this bull is now thirteen months. A very thick and massive fellow!

 

[Avalon]

Appears to be extremely thick with a lot of muscle and bone. Looking at that along with his YW, I would assume that he is low to the ground. I do not like his back legs. If the goal for his calves is mostly terminal, I would say that the buyer of this bull packed some good weights over the scales at the sale barn.

 

[CPL]

Avalon, I agree with you, he should be used for terminal calves. IMO, He could be longer bodied and freer moving. Also in the video it looks like he's got a small hip. Not sure what his daughters will look like, but he'll definitely make some fast growing calves that will have the muscle to bring some money at the sale barn.

 

[hrbelgians]

Hes a pecker dragger.

:?: Would you mind to clarify?? Just being a dummy, I don't know what your term means.

 

[BC]

The bull has a little more set to his hock than is ideal. He is chunked full of meat. Many Braunvieh's appear shorter because they are so deep sided.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Hes a pecker dragger.

:?:

• >>>>Would you mind to clarify<<<<

?? Just being a dummy, I don't know what your term means.

yeah not only that ,but tell us what the heck you'r talkin' bout

 

[Aero]

Hes a pecker dragger.

i was just thinking he had a cleaner sheath than most of the Braunviehs I have seen. Sheath was one of the reasons I went to Aubrac instead of Braunvieh.

 

[Aero]

The bull has a little more set to his hock than is ideal. He is chunked full of meat. Many Braunvieh's appear shorter because they are so deep sided.

and because their rump length is longer than most cattle. it makes their spines look shorter.

 

[hrbelgians]

Hes a pecker dragger.

:?:

• >>>>Would you mind to clarify<<<<

?? Just being a dummy, I don't know what your term means.

yeah not only that ,but tell us what the heck you'r talkin' bout

I'm sorry! What I should have said was, being the dummy that I am. Would you please clarify the term Pecker dragger, as I never heard that one?
Sorry and thanks.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

:lol: I know what you meant i was wondering way he thought his sheath is sloppy cause ive seen alot worse... he is refering too the sheath being loose and pendulous

 

[ROB]

Hes a pecker dragger.

he is a lot cleaner sheathed than our current braunvieh herdsire (which has no trouble covering twice if not three times as many cows as our angus herdsire). i really don't see a concern with his bottomline. nothing a little cleaning up during the annual soundness exam wouldn't fix. my vet laughs every time i bring in a braunvieh bull for a soundness exam. says he cant believe the amount of activity under the microscope. they are very fertile, aggressive breeders. clean sheath or not they now how to use what daddy gave'm. to date with braunvieh bulls, i have never had one run over his toolbox. :lol:

ROB

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Hes a pecker dragger.

he is a lot cleaner sheathed than our current braunvieh herdsire (which has no trouble covering twice if not three times as many cows as our angus herdsire). i really don't see a concern with his bottomline. nothing a little cleaning up during the annual soundness exam wouldn't fix. my vet laughs every time i bring in a braunvieh bull for a soundness exam. says he cant believe the amount of activity under the microscope. they are very fertile, aggressive breeders. clean sheath or not they now how to use what daddy gave'm. to date with braunvieh bulls, i have never had one run over his toolbox. :lol:

ROB

i don't think he's got a problem... .. but no matter how clean you keep one, its not a trait i want to pass on. they can be as fertile or more so than any, but they got to be able aim first .

 

[ROB]

i don't think he's got a problem... .. but no matter how clean you keep one, its not a trait i want to pass on. they can be as fertile or more so than any, but they got to be able aim first .

i agree with your statement - i'm just trying to point out that our herdsire, who is not clean sheathed, and is a very aggressive breeder, and does cover a lot of cows...consistently, apparently does not have any problem with his aim, and has never been hurt in the process. this is not a problem that i have been made aware of from other braunvieh breeders that i converse with. personally, i do prefer a cleaner sheathed bull- but if the overall quality of a bull is good, and he has the other traits i am looking for, the sheath is a pretty minor issue for me. i tend to think that a bulls consistent breeding ability has more to do with his athletesism...i.e. power in both his hind legs to maintain good balance, and his conditioning...ability to cover a number of cows without taking a breather, and his aggressiveness...ability to cover a number of cows... repeatidly, without taking a breather.

ROB

 

[ANAZAZI]

i don't think he's got a problem... .. but no matter how clean you keep one, its not a trait i want to pass on. they can be as fertile or more so than any, but they got to be able aim first .

i agree with your statement - i'm just trying to point out that our herdsire, who is not clean sheathed, and is a very aggressive breeder, and does cover a lot of cows...consistently, apparently does not have any problem with his aim, and has never been hurt in the process. this is not a problem that i have been made aware of from other braunvieh breeders that i converse with. personally, i do prefer a cleaner sheathed bull- but if the overall quality of a bull is good, and he has the other traits i am looking for, the sheath is a pretty minor issue for me. i tend to think that a bulls consistent breeding ability has more to do with his athletesism...i.e. power in both his hind legs to maintain good balance, and his conditioning...ability to cover a number of cows without taking a breather, and his aggressiveness...ability to cover a number of cows... repeatidly, without taking a breather.
ROB

DITTO!

 

[hrbelgians]

:lol: I know what you meant i was wondering way he thought his sheath is sloppy cause ive seen alot worse... he is refering too the sheath being loose and pendulous

Ok,
Thanks man!

 

[ROB]

Than this bull is now thirteen months. A very thick and massive fellow!

i downloaded his linear measurements today, they are as follows:

frame score: 5.6
365 Adj Hip: 50.3
365 Adj Girth: 71.3
365 Adj Top: 71.3
364 Adj Sh W: 3.50
365 Adj Rump Width: 22.0
Rump Width %: 43.83
Rump Length %: 35.20
Adj Neck: -2.26

i was really impressed with the information that is being provided with this sale offering. 95 bulls to be sold on April 9th - each with the linear measurements, Rea, IMF, BF, ADG, and RFI. And although this is not a large sale, it is a sale represented by diverse group of breeders - so a fairly broad range of genetics are made available at one location.

ROB

 

[Aero]

Than this bull is now thirteen months. A very thick and massive fellow!

i downloaded his linear measurements today, they are as follows:

frame score: 5.6
365 Adj Hip: 50.3
365 Adj Girth: 71.3
365 Adj Top: 71.3
364 Adj Sh W: 3.50
365 Adj Rump Width: 22.0
Rump Width %: 43.83
Rump Length %: 35.20
Adj Neck: -2.26

i was really impressed with the information that is being provided with this sale offering. 95 bulls to be sold on April 9th - each with the linear measurements, Rea, IMF, BF, ADG, and RFI. And although this is not a large sale, it is a sale represented by diverse group of breeders - so a fairly broad range of genetics are made available at one location.

ROB

so what does this tell you...?