Online grandaughter

showmomof2

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What can we expect out of a granddaughter of Online? She's one of the heifer's my son bought this summer. She's still pretty young (5 months) bought she appears to be looking good. Pastures over here have been pretty bad, but since we got her and put her on feed she is improving alot. Will have pictures after the fair in a couple of weeks.
 
I have seen a lot of Online daughters in the last few years, they for the most part look fairly good. Growthy calves that seem to milk pretty well. While I have some big reservations about Online himself and at least one of his big name sons I like his daughters pretty well. Since your sons heifer is only 25% Online, 75% matters what else is in the genes.

Alan
 
showmomof2":ihhbe9m0 said:
What can we expect out of a granddaughter of Online? She's one of the heifer's my son bought this summer. She's still pretty young (5 months) bought she appears to be looking good. Pastures over here have been pretty bad, but since we got her and put her on feed she is improving alot. Will have pictures after the fair in a couple of weeks.

May I ask what she is crossed with? What portion of Arkansas?
 
Herefordsire, I'll do my best here but some of the sires on her dams side are DF Sage by LLF Forecast, CF Victor. I have made no pretense about our beginner status, so hope I am making sense. We live in Northern Arkansas-where are you?
 
showmomof2":34tm5twx said:
Herefordsire, I'll do my best here but some of the sires on her dams side are DF Sage by LLF Forecast, CF Victor. I have made no pretense about our beginner status, so hope I am making sense. We live in Northern Arkansas-where are you?


Southern Arkansas :cboy:

In guessing, I would say a maternal grandsire could be IGT Forcaster. I am I close?
 
Herefordsire-your right on the money. Is that good? I told you I am not aquainted with these bloodlines. From what I can tell on alot of the bulls our friends used they have good growth and milk epd's. We're learning, though, and any help and advice is welcome!
 
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showmomof2":3ay1u2h9 said:
Herefordsire-your right on the money. Is that good? I told you I am not aquainted with these bloodlines. From what I can tell on alot of the bulls our friends used they have good growth and milk epd's. We're learning, though, and any help and advice is welcome!


I have seen much worse. I think there are groups of breeders that like him although I am not one of them. It appears as though his dam had 30 natural calves, possible through tripletts. I do like Online 122L. Maybe your heifer will have tripletts.

http://www.herfnet.com/online/cgi-bin/i ... E&9=5C5A5E
 
showmomof2":1dabg394 said:
Let's pray she doesn't! I can handle twins-we have actually had pretty good luck with them!


I personally am the father to twins, and the cash went out not in. You may be on to something....locate all the dams in the AHA database with greater than 20 natural calves, etc.

Have you had any "Free Martins"?
 
HerefordSire":1o25ojyp said:
showmomof2":1o25ojyp said:
Let's pray she doesn't! I can handle twins-we have actually had pretty good luck with them!


I personally am the father to twins, and the cash went out not in. You may be on to something....locate all the dams in the AHA database with greater than 20 natural calves, etc.

Have you had any "Free Martins"?

If you checked the birth dates of her calves you'd see most had different birth dates. They just didn't follow the naming convention of adding 'ET' to the names.
Slightly off-topic, wouldn't you love to have direct access to the Hereford database and run the queries as you want, not the generic ones they allow? Think about it, you could find animals which were the products of half-sibling matings, what percentage of the daughters of a bull/cow actually went on to produce multiple calves...

Btw, all our heifers which were twins to bulls have been Free Martins. We kept one which passed the physical exam, cycled, but never conceived. She was delicious.
 
If you checked the birth dates of her calves you'd see most had different birth dates. They just didn't follow the naming convention of adding 'ET' to the names.
Slightly off-topic, wouldn't you love to have direct access to the Hereford database and run the queries as you want, not the generic ones they allow? Think about it, you could find animals which were the products of half-sibling matings, what percentage of the daughters of a bull/cow actually went on to produce multiple calves...

Btw, all our heifers which were twins to bulls have been Free Martins. We kept one which passed the physical exam, cycled, but never conceived. She was delicious.


I did not pull a calf list. However, I noticed in the pdf download she had 30 calves listed for BW ratio. Usually, I don't see the restricted ET calves listed there but further down in the carcass ratios. If what you are saying is correct, then this is an error unless I am mistaken in my reasoning.

I am considering negotiating with the AHA either with a business proposition or through a research proposition in order to access the database. It would be difficult for me to locate hidden patterns without this hidden data. I am pretty sure there is at least one software product that can access it so I don;t see why another corporation couldn't. If we could just locate all the cow line with tripletts, we could probably retire 10 years earlier. I believe this trait alternates generations like in my ex-wife's family. Would it be possible to flush these resultant cows to generate three times the number of embryos?
 
About the freemartins-We had a cow that had twin heifers one year. They grew out good with no extra care or feed-she did it by herself. The heifers grew out and we kept them in the herd. They are a couple of our favorites (until my husband traded my favorite one in on a car this weekend). The next year the same cow came back with twin heifers again. They didn't grow out the greatest but we kept them for awhile thinking they would catch up. They never did and when we had them pelvic checked they weren't right, so off to the sale. The set we have this year is a heifer and a bull, so I am assuming the heifer won't breed, so she will be sold-along with alot of cows this fall-our place just went under contract today. We are looking for a smaller farm to run the kids show calves and a few mama cows.
 

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