On Going Saga

[RazorbackRed]

Some of you may remember my post from a couple of months ago, where I got screwed on buying a registered beefmaster bred heifer.

The story to date.

Drive 40 miles one way, buy a bred heifer.
Take her home
My bull wears her out repeatedly
I call the breeder, and he dodges for a few days
I load her up and take her to the vet
She is open.
The breeder says I can switch but I have to take the old one back and pick up a new one.
I was mad, as I thought he should make it right by picking up the old and delivering the new.
I go 40 miles one way drop off the old and pick up the new
The new is claimed to have been checked that week and is 4.5 months preg
I take her home.
1 month later she looks like that vet was wrong as she is swelling up and making pretty heavy bag.
2 weeks later I notice bloody discharge
1 month later my bull is popping her a good one.
This Saturday I am taking her back to the vet for blood work. i think she aborted. Bag went down, swelling went down, bull is working her.
Vet should be able to tell me what caused abort, maybe.

Do I have the right to just demand my money back, or am I screwed blued and tattooed?

This is my second heifer, tons of deisel and vet bills and I still don't have a bred heifer. i don't want any animals from this guys farm. What would you do? Remember this breeder refused to deliver me a new one, the first time we had trouble.

 

[mnmtranching]

Seems odd that she would be making a heavy bag at 5 1/2 months. Did you find a fetus? Should have been more then a bloody discharge. Sounds to me like the guy is dumping some junk off on you. Your dealing with a guy that will probably not stand behind a abort. Won't hurt to call the guy.

 

[Bez+]

Hate to sound like an @ss - but there is a ton / tonne of info on buying cattle here - do some searches under Bez, Bez?, Bez! and whatever other names I might have used. If you had read it you might have been a little more informed and not be in this mess.

Be that as it may - You got took .... well, maybe you got took .....

You may have a problem at your place - bull with STD, disease that is not noticeable unless herd health inspection is done and so on - too many things and I am not in the mood to point fingers. This could easily be a two way street despite whatever you have written - and we do not have the other side of the story - so ......

The seller may have honestly thought he sold you a sound animal.

Then again it is buyer beware - and you might not have been "bewary" enough.

If you believe you were taken, it is possible it is because you were not prepared.

Here is a short way to ensure you get what you need.

Go to any breeder or supplier - known, trusted or not known and you have no opinion on his trustworthiness.

Pick out all the animals you are interested in and run them into a pen.

Call up the local vet and come and have them inspected.

You pay the vet for the checking he does on any animals you buy, you split any mileage costs with the seller, and you get all previous records from this guy.

If the seller is not prepared to do this - or does not have verifiable records - go elsewhere.

You come to buy at my place - back when we were big in the game - that is how we did it.

Just because someone has some cows does not make him a cattleman or a breeder or a seller or even a responsible citizen - you have to do your homework whether you buy / sell only one or hundreds of animals.

I also gave a legal guarantee that would stand up in court with all the potential problems we could think of - from both the buyer and the seller point of view. And trust me - we used to move a lot of animals on and off the ranch some years.

Sort out ALL the return options BEFORE you load and go.

I bet you end up sucking up this mess - not pleasant but not worth killing yourself over it.

Fatten this animal and put it in the freezer - life is too short to get wrapped around the axle - it has happened and it is over and you are wiser.

Profit in this game is tough and loss is easy.

Call it a life lesson.

Best regards

Bez+

 

[KNERSIE]

Good to see you back, Bez! Mission accomplished?

 

[TexasBred]

If you've got a good bull why don't you buy open heifers and breed them to your bull? Course with your luck they'd probably all be short bred when you bought them. :cry2:

 

[Bez+]

Good to see you back, Bez! Mission accomplished?

Negative - a little R&R on the shores of the Sea of Galilee - Tiberius

Good wine - pretty gals to look at - no one wants to hurt me. Life is grand indeed

Bez+

 

[KNERSIE]

Judging by how long you were gone it seems like it was a lot of R&R! Hope you're well rested, looking forward to reading your contributions.

 

[Bez+]

Judging by how long you were gone it seems like it was a lot of R&R! Hope you're well rested, looking forward to reading your contributions.

One more year - maybe two - depends on how the operation goes.

Sorry for the hijack RBR

Bez+

 

[hillsdown]

Razor, I would wait until you hear the results from your vet and then evaluate all of your options.

You may just be better to wash your hands of this and the "breeder" ,chalk it up to a very bad and expensive learning experience.

I had three very expensive cows from a reputable master breeder (who was also president of the association at one time) who all ended up to be pieces of crap.One b@%^% even brought Johnes into my herd leading me to cull hard and almost lose my shirt. Even with the help of the breed association I got nothing from the b@#$^%d..and these were all guaranteed to be breeders.

The only option was to sue and I decided not to do that ,I am a firm believer that KARMA is b@tch and am just waiting for it to happen. :cowboy:

Good luck and who knows your vet may have good news for you. :)



Hey good to hear from you Bez ,stay safe.. :tiphat:

 

[dun]

Eat her and move on

 

[I luv herfrds]

Bought a bred heifer a few years ago that turned up open. The breeder I got her from offered a couple of different options. We kept her and he gave us our choice of a bull or heifer calf. We took the heifer.

Now for this guy you are dealing with, I would call him and tell him you are bringing her back and you want your money back.
Then have your bull tested for all STD's.
Talk to other breeders in your area. Hopefully you will find a respectable one.
Chalk this up as a learning experience and move on.

 

[Brandonm22]

That this happened TWICE makes me think there is a herd health issue either with your herd or his herd (if it was his problem...after owning two of his animals it is now your problem). Talk to a vet, test for everything he recommends testing for, then vaccinate everything you own even if the blood work is inconclusive.

 

[bigbull338]

something dont make sense 2 heifers from the same breeder slipping a calf or coming up open.means something is wrong in his program.i think id keep the heifer an try to get her bred.if you cant get her safe in calf then cull her an be done with it.an i wouldnt buy from that breeder again.