Not Gaining weight

T-Bone

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I have a ~ ten month old heifer. She weights about 500-550 lbs. I am concerned about her because she does not appear to be gaining enough weight. I feed her together with two other heifers. I give her about four lbs of creep feed (13%). I also have a salt block and mineral block and coastal hay. She is a limousine cross. She has a good coat and her ribs are not visible nor is her spine. I don’t want to wait to that point. Should I give her some vitamins? The only noticeable thing that I have done is given a vaccination on Christmas Eve. She is due for her booster. I am thinking about skipping her till she gains more weight. What do you think? Thanks for the help…
 
How much hay? Should be unlimited. 550 lbs at ten months doesn't sound like a keeper to me. If that's an accurate weight, there's not much you can do now. When and how was she wormed?
 
4 pounds of any kind of feed is not enough for gain. Most likely problem is just not enough nutrition. If you want to cover all the bases, worm her and make sure she's healthy. But she'll have to have more nutrition in order to gain. Depending on the feed formulation, a reasonable feed intake would be at least 11 pounds, probably more depending on what your targeted gain/day is.
 
The original owner did the first worming in August before we bought them. They did the pour on the back. I also gave her a worming in her feed at the time of the vaccination on December 24th.
 
Find a good quality beef grower feed and gradually work her up to about 13-15 pounds of feed over a period of about 10 days. Increase a little each day until you're at the 13-15 pounds. In about 30-45 days she should have visibly gained weight. As you're increasing her feed, make sure she doesn't bloat or stool get too loose...those are signs you're increasing too fast....keep free choice hay. If she doesn't respond to this, you might question whether you want to keep her.
 
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rk":1xeqttl4 said:
Find a good quality beef grower feed and gradually work her up to about 13-15 pounds of feed over a period of about 10 days. Increase a little each day until you're at the 13-15 pounds. In about 30-45 days she should have visibly gained weight. As you're increasing her feed, make sure she doesn't bloat or stool get too loose...those are signs you're increasing too fast....keep free choice hay. If she doesn't respond to this, you might question whether you want to keep her.

Good advice: Try 7 pounds of cotton seed a day with some grain.
Also ask the person you got her from. If she is lagging way behind sell her and buy another.
 
Is she growing noticeably slower than the others you have? Sounds like possibly she was weaned a little early (say at around 5 or 6 months ?) and possibly didn't have a lot of good groceries to eat between then and hay feeding season, what with the drought and all, and maybe she she just needs some time to catch up. Did you have a chance to see if her mom was apparently a decent milker? Does she frequently have the squirts? If you decide to keep her, the next time you worm her try an oral drench of Valbazen or a subQ shot of IvomecPlus. Whatever pouron the prior owner wormed with, and the Safeguard pellets in the feed (which I assume you used) are fine for lots of areas, but down around Victoria you probably have liver flukes and the pouron and/or Safeguard won't do a thing to them.
 
Sounds like may have been a early weaner....or more likely,other calves were stealing her milk. Some old timers say they will eventually catch up at age 2 - 3, but you have to ask yourself do you want to invest that much in them. I suspect that even if they catch up on the weight,they will lack in height and frame. Also, unless you have her in a pen by herself,she may be getting crowded out at the feedbunk by other animals as she would probably not be that aggressive.Just my 2 cents. ;-) :cboy:
 
alabama":2uai075n said:
Good advice: Try 7 pounds of cotton seed a day with some grain.
Also ask the person you got her from. If she is lagging way behind sell her and buy another.

If I remember right, the accepted "safe" limit for a COW - not a calf - is 5lbs per head per day. I think on a weaned calf with a functioning rumen, it's about 1.5lbs/hd/day.

So 7lbs is way too much.
 
Milkmaid is right. It's .5% for cow, and .33% (!.8 lbs for 550 lb calf) max for cottonseed. (Ain't google nice?)
 
MoGal":s8w1wbu5 said:
http://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16948

You posted this question last month, what changes have you implemented according to those suggestions or have you just continued to do the same thing?

The changes are that now I only have one that is not gaining. I am increasing their feed gradually. The other two are looking good. They have coastal hay, salt block, Mineral block & a Tub of molasses. The key thing on this post is the vaccination shot. Do you think that may be related to her lack of gain? Thanks for your follow up…
 
I think you are right 7 pounds is too much. According to Dr. Rankin of auburn University it should be in the 4 to 5 pound range. I have atteched his statment below.

Whole Cottonseed
Many cattle producers have used whole cottonseed as a supplement for beef cattle for many years. This year may be a good year to revisit whole cottonseed if you have reduced your usage as a result of it’s cost. Cottonseed contains abundant amounts of energy and is also a very good source of protein. It will typically contain greater than 90% TDN and approximately 24% crude protein. The limiting factor for its use in beef cattle diets is the fat content, which is approximately 20%. In general, mature cows can be fed 6 to 8 pounds per day while replacement heifers and stocker steers should be limited to about 4 to5 pounds per day. For most of the hay produced in Alabama, daily supplementation with 7 pounds of whole cottonseed would provide adequate energy and protein to a lactating cow. The seed should be fed in bunks or troughs; however, it can be fed on clean sod on a daily or every other day basis. Whole cottonseed also can be offered in feeders containing a 3 to 4 day supply at a time. Once cattle are adapted to whole cottonseed the fat content becomes an intake limiter. Note. It should not be fed in self feeders with a V-shape because the fuzzy seed will bridge and cattle will not have continual access to the feed. For this same reason, cottonseed will need to be stored in a covered shed or feed bay and not in feed bins. Fuzzy seed will not auger or gravity-flow very well. Seed is generally handled with front-end loaders or by hand.
Whole cottonseed is low in calcium content and thus the mineral being fed should contain adequate quantities of calcium. Cottonseed contains a toxic compound called gossypol. In general, gossypol causes male infertility problems, thus there has been some concern for feeding bulls whole cottonseed. The scientific literature contains many studies on this topic and the results are mixed. Based on a Texas A&M study, it appears that there are two isomers of gossypol and one is toxic while the other possesses very little activity. Upland cotton appears to contain less of the toxic isomer than does Pima cotton and in the southeast most of the cotton is of the Upland type. Thus in Alabama, bull infertility as a result of cottonseed consumption appears to be a minor problem.
As with most supplements, start the cattle out with small amounts and gradually work up to the desired level of supplementation over a period of 7 to 10 days.
 
No, I don't think she's lost weight based on you giving her a vaccine shot. Also if you don't follow up with the booster then its the same as if she's never had it and you will have to start over.

I think if you look into your feeding program and implement some changes there, you could increase her weight gain. Most creep feeds are high in fiber. Have you checked with your county extension agent to ask their recommendation for feeding out replacement heifers according to your area (environment)??
 
MoGal":3jfr66eq said:
No, I don't think she's lost weight based on you giving her a vaccine shot. Also if you don't follow up with the booster then its the same as if she's never had it and you will have to start over.

I think if you look into your feeding program and implement some changes there, you could increase her weight gain. Most creep feeds are high in fiber. Have you checked with your county extension agent to ask their recommendation for feeding out replacement heifers according to your area (environment)??
Good idea. I will call the co. agent. Thanks for your follow up!
 

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