Not Collecting For A Long Time?

[TxCoUnTrYbOy]

Are there any harmful effects if you dont collect from a bull for a long period of time? That or if they arent with a heifer? My bull is 19 months right now and hasnt had any type of 'relief'. I wouldnt expect 19 months of age to do any damage, but say if its almost a year before he is put with a heifer, could it damage him? If so, when would he need to be collected? Just thought Id check so Id know what I need to do.

 

[R ^ 5]

You are kidding, right.If not then sell the bull.You are not mature enough to be in this business yet.IMHO.Good grief

 

[Wren]

R ^ 5 -
Be nice now.

TxCoUnTrYbOy -
I don't have much experiance with bulls but I assume that it is the same will all animals that you collect on. Not collecting will not cause any damage. Nor will the bull not "relieving" himself cause any damage. If it does then it is a bad bull with bad semen. Male animals produce semen all of thier life and they store it. Thus the need for the testicles. After a while if the semen does not get used it dies and gets reabsorbed into the body.

My suggestion is if you are going to collect on this bull after a long layoff is to collect him a few times before having the semen evaluated and shipped. I would not expect any animal that has been on a long breeding layoff to have a good semen eval. You need to get everything flowing again. With horses I collect on day. Give them a day or two off then collect again. Give them another day off and the collect and evaluate.

If you have an animal that can come off a long layoff that you can collect and get a good eval on right off the bat then that is a very good and fertile bull. If you do pasture breeding then just turn the bull out with the cows and he will get flowing good again on his own with any intervention.
I know horses that go 6 or 7 years without breeding and they pick it up again and do fine. I assume it would be the same in most animals.
I hope this awnsers your questions. If you have any more and I can help I would love to. I am by no means a reproductive specialist but I do a lot with horses and have a couple of friend that are good AI techs.

 

[cherokeeruby]

Are there any harmful effects if you dont collect from a bull for a long period of time? That or if they arent with a heifer? My bull is 19 months right now and hasnt had any type of 'relief'. I wouldnt expect 19 months of age to do any damage, but say if its almost a year before he is put with a heifer, could it damage him? If so, when would he need to be collected? Just thought Id check so Id know what I need to do.

Of the numerous Brahman bulls we have owned I cannot recall one that did not take care of "relieving" himself with no assistance from a heifer or cow. Your bull is getting about old enough to start, just watch you will know what I mean.

 

[buckaroo_bif]

You are kidding, right.If not then sell the bull.You are not mature enough to be in this business yet.IMHO.Good grief

what the heck>? it was an honest question.
i know if'n i don't get too unload for an extended period it hurts like hail sometimes. maybe country boy had experineced the same problem...?

 

[PLR]

Actually If the bull is not with females or being collected from he will naturally relieve hisself..... Yea. Its kinda wierd but thats the way it works. he should be just fine.

Shelby

 

[Caustic Burno]

Are there any harmful effects if you dont collect from a bull for a long period of time? That or if they arent with a heifer? My bull is 19 months right now and hasnt had any type of 'relief'. I wouldnt expect 19 months of age to do any damage, but say if its almost a year before he is put with a heifer, could it damage him? If so, when would he need to be collected? Just thought Id check so Id know what I need to do.

Of the numerous Brahman bulls we have owned I cannot recall one that did not take care of "relieving" himself with no assistance from a heifer or cow. Your bull is getting about old enough to start, just watch you will know what I mean.

Whoa Little Red Bramer Ruby

Watchin Pasture porn.

 

[cherokeeruby]

Are there any harmful effects if you dont collect from a bull for a long period of time? That or if they arent with a heifer? My bull is 19 months right now and hasnt had any type of 'relief'. I wouldnt expect 19 months of age to do any damage, but say if its almost a year before he is put with a heifer, could it damage him? If so, when would he need to be collected? Just thought Id check so Id know what I need to do.

Of the numerous Brahman bulls we have owned I cannot recall one that did not take care of "relieving" himself with no assistance from a heifer or cow. Your bull is getting about old enough to start, just watch you will know what I mean.

Whoa Little Red Bramer Ruby

Watchin Pasture porn.

Hey, it's free

 

[certherfbeef]

bulls we have owned I cannot recall one that did not take care of "relieving" himself with no assistance from a heifer or cow. Your bull is getting about old enough to start, just watch you will know what I mean.

That is what we call "a champion in the straw".

 

[Salicylic]

Caustic, why are you always picking on poor cherokeeruby? She seems like a genuine helpful person. Why don't you pick on someone who deserves it like txcountryboy who is deluded into thinking someone might want to actually buy semen on his little bull.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Caustic, why are you always picking on poor cherokeeruby? She seems like a genuine helpful person. Why don't you pick on someone who deserves it like txcountryboy who is deluded into thinking someone might want to actually buy semen on his little bull.

Trying to get her phone number. Figure I could put that good Hereford bull on some of those Bramers.

And it just hit me who asked, mind your business.

 

[Salicylic]

Caustic, why are you always picking on poor cherokeeruby? She seems like a genuine helpful person. Why don't you pick on someone who deserves it like txcountryboy who is deluded into thinking someone might want to actually buy semen on his little bull.

Trying to get her phone number. Figure I could put that good Hereford bull on some of those Bramers.

And it just hit me who asked, mind your business.

Yeah sure, you want her phone number to sell her a Hereford bull for breeding. Ha Ha, we know that is not the breeding you really have in mind you old cad!

 

[Texan]

Ha Ha, we know that is not the breeding you really have in mind you old cad!

You don't trust him, Sali? You think maybe old Caustic wants a little collecting, too? Gotta be a demand for it first.....

 

[Salicylic]

Think you are right. One good thing I can say about my brother is he never gives up trying.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Heck I not selling the bull just want to loan it.

 

[Mahoney Pursley Ranch]

Heck I not selling the bull just want to loan it.

Not askin to buy the cow huh just want the milk.

 

[Wren]

Actually If the bull is not with females or being collected from he will naturally relieve hisself..... Yea. Its kinda wierd but thats the way it works. he should be just fine.

Shelby

I didn't want to mention this myself because I wan't sure if bulls did or not. I know that horses do.

 

[TxCoUnTrYbOy]

Why don't you pick on someone who deserves it like txcountryboy who is deluded into thinking someone might want to actually buy semen on his little bull.

Why would I deserve it? For asking an honest question about my animal? You expect me to be a pro at this stuff when I have 1 (2 very soon) cattle and want to begin a herd? You want me to know everything about cattle at 17 years old? You may have been a pro at 10, but I live in the middle of Houston, never lived on a farm and never was around livestock until I joined FFA in High School. Please forgive me for trying to learn what I need to do and what not to do with my animal.

Also, who ever mentioned me trying to sell semen? You may not show your animals, but past a certain age its required to have the bulls tested and certified that they produce good semen, which means collecting, so just because it has to be collected doesnt mean I have to sell it to anyone.

Please, from now on, if you want to sit and make fun of me for not knowing as much as you do, then keep it to yourself.

 

[Salicylic]

Why don't you pick on someone who deserves it like txcountryboy who is deluded into thinking someone might want to actually buy semen on his little bull.

Why would I deserve it? For asking an honest question about my animal? You expect me to be a pro at this stuff when I have 1 (2 very soon) cattle and want to begin a herd? You want me to know everything about cattle at 17 years old? You may have been a pro at 10, but I live in the middle of Houston, never lived on a farm and never was around livestock until I joined FFA in High School. Please forgive me for trying to learn what I need to do and what not to do with my animal.

Also, who ever mentioned me trying to sell semen? You may not show your animals, but past a certain age its required to have the bulls tested and certified that they produce good semen, which means collecting, so just because it has to be collected doesnt mean I have to sell it to anyone.

Please, from now on, if you want to sit and make fun of me for not knowing as much as you do, then keep it to yourself.

You mentioned selling semen, check out this thread:

http://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ling+semen