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LoveMoo11

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Nice site, thanks for the link. I like this quote that was on there:
"NAIS will put Livestock owners under closer surveillance than terrorists, illegals aliens, drug dealers, and convicted sex offenders/child molesters. Currently, only convicted sex offenders/child molesters have to register their premises."
 

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LoveMoo11":p254vzuv said:
Nice site, thanks for the link. I like this quote that was on there:
"NAIS will put Livestock owners under closer surveillance than terrorists, illegals aliens, drug dealers, and convicted sex offenders/child molesters. Currently, only convicted sex offenders/child molesters have to register their premises."

What about automatic cartridge gun owners?
 

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NAIS is coming and we will all be better off for it --at least those of us that are doing a good job and supplying a valued product. Those offended by it are usually the ones that do a poor job in this business and need to be weeded out anyway. Just think ---for the first time in your life you will actually be held responsible for what you produce---WOW
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grannysoo":1pgoej9d said:
An interesting website devoted to stopping the NAIS program...

http://naisstinks.com/
 
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edrsimms":3jnhy19l said:
NAIS is coming and we will all be better off for it --at least those of us that are doing a good job and supplying a valued product. Those offended by it are usually the ones that do a poor job in this business and need to be weeded out anyway. Just think ---for the first time in your life you will actually be held responsible for what you produce---WOW
Ed


grannysoo":3jnhy19l said:
An interesting website devoted to stopping the NAIS program...

http://naisstinks.com/

WOW indeed! A government staffed by people that don't know the meaning of the word responsible will be making sure that I'm responsible. For the first time in my life I will be held responsible for what I produce? Now that's just plain amusing...
 

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grannysoo":2dmkfw8u said:
A government staffed by people that don't know the meaning of the word responsible will be making sure that I'm responsible.

I would say the judge's gavel is about ready to hit the wood and dismiss the case and rule in your favor. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 

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edrsimms":1vgqqwpw said:
NAIS is coming and we will all be better off for it --at least those of us that are doing a good job and supplying a valued product. Those offended by it are usually the ones that do a poor job in this business and need to be weeded out anyway. Just think ---for the first time in your life you will actually be held responsible for what you produce---WOW
Ed

what a pile of steaming horse sh1t that is!! NAIS has nothing to do with product safety (which by and large starts at the packing house floor not the pasture) and everything to do with regulation and control. If you want to delude yourself that complying with the ridiculous premise (excuse the pun) of NAIS, go ahead, but try a little research and find out how exactly NAIS in other countries has added value to their product.

Enaction of a law and regulation (as NAIS is) means that there will be enforcement and fines, if you want a real live example of this I'd be happy to enlighten you.
 

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October 14, 2009



Op-Ed by R-CALF USA Animal ID Committee Chair Kenny Fox**



It Appears NAIS Enforcement Gets Underway in Wisconsin



Billings, Mont. – It appears that in the state of Wisconsin, which has mandated the first prong of the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA’s) National Animal Identification System (NAIS) through agency rule making, prosecution of individuals opposed to NAIS has begun.



On Sept. 23, 2009, an Amish gentleman named Emanuel J. Miller, Jr., was taken to Clark County Court in Neillsville, Wis., for an evidentiary hearing on complex civil forfeiture for failing to register his premises. The case immediately moved to the first stage of trial. Miller and his father, as well as their church deacon, testified as to their objections to being forced to use the NAIS premises identification number (PIN). As USDA has proudly proclaimed in many glossy brochures, premises registration is the “first step” in the NAIS, and the Wisconsin Amish have become quite aware of this.



On Oct. 21, 2009, in Polk County, Wis., R-CALF USA Members Pat and Melissa Monchilovich are going to trial for the same charges of complex civil forfeiture. Pat and his wife raise cattle in Cumberland, Wis., and have failed to register their property as a premises with the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture and Consumer Protection, as Wisconsin’s Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection (DATCP) requires by regulation.



This is the tip of the NAIS iceberg. One could look upon Wisconsin as the sentinel case in the enforcement measures necessary to bring this nation’s citizens into compliance with NAIS.



Although the statute that enables Wisconsin’s DATCP to require premises registration does indeed allow for exemptions, when DATCP wrote the regulations, it decided to disallow any exemptions. This is a major issue, particularly with the Amish community (and others) who hold religious objections to the NAIS.



At the Miller hearing, the Amish said that although they cannot state with absolute certainty that the NAIS’ premises identification number is the precursor to the “Mark of the Beast,” they do know it is the first step of NAIS that leads to the individual numbering and tracking of animals. The Amish said they believe caution is in order to avoid discovering later that they had violated their beliefs and then have no recourse to remedy that error. Their religious objections to obtaining an NAIS PIN are real and personal.



Despite a desire on the part of proponents of NAIS to negate religious objections to NAIS, the fact that it is a global program is indisputable, as enforcement measures and final details are left up to member nations of the World Trade Organization (WTO). In Australia*, rancher Stephen Blair was fined a total of $17,300 for using the wrong tags on 177 of his cattle. Notably, the components of Australia’s National Livestock Identification System (NLIS) are the same as those in NAIS.



In March 2007*, another case in which the identification of cattle was in violation of the identification mandate to facilitate global trade happened the United Kingdom (UK). Dairy farmer David Dobbin had an unspecified number of cattle whose tags didn't match their “passports.” The European Union (EU) regulations allowed the UK’s Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA), to confiscate both his cattle and his passports and to require that he positively identify the herd within 48 hours or face the loss of his cattle. It is a complete impossibility to positively identify animals with neither the animals nor their paperwork, but that was DEFRA’s requirement. The case was put off for one month and then appealed on the basis that DEFRA could n ot afford to keep feeding Dobbin’s cattle, so the animals were destroyed. Mr. Dobbin lost 567 cattle and was paid no indemnity at all.



At issue in the Wisconsin cases is that we are witnessing the first enforcement actions in the implementation of NAIS. The fines in the charges brought against Miller and the Monchilovichs are between $200 and $5,000. Premises identification is just the first step of NAIS, second is the identification of one’s animals, and third is the tracking of each and every movement of one’s animals. The final component is enforcement, which is now coming to bear in Wisconsin.



More than 90 percent of those who attended USDA’s recent “listening” sessions on NAIS said “No NAIS. Not Now, Not Ever!” If we mean that, then we must stand in support of these Wisconsin people being charged with NAIS violations.



* Background: 1) Miller trial, http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2009/09/27/th ... -part-ii/; 2) Stephen Blair, Australia, http://nqr.farmonline.com.au/news/natio ... 58.aspx%20); and, 3) Dobbin/UK, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... ebook.html.
 

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