This little spot is about 40' wide, and 70' long. I sprigged it last year from some random bermuda that I already had growing on my farm. I guess it's common. I don't know. I didn't do much to prepare the ground. I ran over it several times with a field cultivator. I just wanted to experiment with the process. I did a little bit of everything all at once. I sprayed it early this spring with roundup, and have hit it with 2 4d twice this year. I haven't grazed it, it is in the corner of one of my hay pens. I have bush hogged it once. it hasn't had any fertilizer. The ground is pretty rich there from years of hay storage. Cows don't like it, and just about want eat it. I am just shy of 4 inches of rain for the week. Its rained all summer. The hay field i tried to plant wrangler in this year was a total bust.