This is the bull that has had scours for over a year. I have started feeding him Momensin the last few weeks, and it has improved. If he stands in one place, he has a texture in his patty/pool.
The vet that I originally wanted, talked to me a long time, and he sent off a sample for salmonella. It came back negative. He also said that as healthy as the bull was, that if he contracted Johne's when he was a calf, then it started showing up when he was a now, which would be around the time or a little late; and he had watery scours for a year , then the bull would be emaciated or dead by now. He said that it was not just something that they could handle for a long time. Once it hit them, then they would begin to waste away from the diarrhea. It kills them fast.
Now he want to do a nose culture for the BVD test to see if he is an active carrier. It is so hot that I do not want to stress him out. It has been 98 and 100* here, and the humidity has been sky high. I still do not think he has BVD.
I actually think he had acidosis. The more I think about it, the bull did not have the scours when he came to the house. I may have thought that he did, but I remember going in the trailer and walking him out of the when he got here. And if he had of painted the walls and the floor of the trailer with the squirts, you better believe I would have noticed it. I had forgot about going in behind him.
When he got to the house, he was fed the same thing the cows were fed. Distillers grain. I think that it was too much for his system. I was not over feeding it, but I think possibly that some cattle are more sensitive to it than others. The Momensin has started a change. Between six cows and him, I am feeding 1 gallon of distillers grain for the pound of feed per animal, and one half gallon of Momensin, because the cows refused to eat a level any higher than that. I had them up to twice as much Momensin as that, and they ate it, but soon, they started backing away from the trough.
I started backing off of the additive, and they came back and ate a lower dosage.
They sure didn't need the feed, but 1 1/2 gallons of feed between 6 animals is not going to make or break an animal if you need to treat them in some feed.
OK.......... These pictures were taken in between rains. The only time the cows will come out in this 100* weather. If the sun pops out for a minute, they run for the trees. So the pictures are not the brightest. They also have made another mud hole to stay cool in. I will not take the mud hole away from them in this heat. They have been closed outside of the barn and started one on the side of the barn that is shaded. Just like a bunch of pigs.
Here is Grit, He is a 5 year old and I have been telling someone is was 3. Might have been the vet or I may have told it here. Oh well, I will have to straighten that out. If he has been on our farm since a yearling, and was exposed to Johne's as a calf, then it would be kind of late for it to show up now, wouldn't it? Dang, what have I been sniffing? His rear end makes me want to buy a large pack of Scott Tissue and 3 tubes of Boudreaux's Butt Paste.
This is the best cow I have, after she had her 1st heifer, "Pud". Then I have kept her 1st heifer with me too. She is 333, and her milk is shown as being 10 on her registration papers. I was looking for low milk numbers. When she has a calf, she gives a lot of milk, and the calf pulls the weight off of her. I took the heifer calf off of her when it was 4 1/2 months old. Her daughter and granddaughter do not lose any weight at all. So it takes a couple of months to get her back in shape. She is still needing some weight on her, but she is eating the clover and I am not putting out enough feed to fatten anything up. Maybe the Momensin will help her gain some weight. She looks much like her daughter when she gets back in shape. She just doesn't have a whole lot of time to stay that way until the next baby shows up.
This is 333's first heifer, "Pud," out of a different bull than Boomer. She and Boomer have had several bulls. But the last heifer they had, I brought her home too.
This is Pud's first heifer calf out of Boomer. "Kizzie."
This is Kizzie's first heifer calf out of a small bull. It is a very small bull. "Sugar." She is 7 months old. She will be a smaller framed cow. This one is for Doc.
Here is the cow that is out of the 7 framed cow we have, "Ida." This cow just had her 1st bull calf out of a 5.5 frame bull. She seems to keep growing. She is pushing 7 now. I do not care for her bull calf, he is small, and lacks the kick.
Rachel is a Boomer cow, and she has a really thick barrel. She had her first calf this year out of the 5.5 bull. After he was born, she stepped on him a few hours after he was born. She had his tail was broken in 3 places, and he was scuffed up in the back end. I hope things go better this year.
This was the last heifer calf that I had out of Boomer. She is out of 333 and I weaned her pretty early. She was about to drain her mother. My husband usually left the calves on her till they were around 7 months old, and she looked like a skeleton. So her name is "Bee." She is almost 6 months old.
So that is where everything stands as of now. I will just have to do the nasal swab on Grit. I am anxious to see his calves this fall and hope that everything is healthy.
Chuckie
The vet that I originally wanted, talked to me a long time, and he sent off a sample for salmonella. It came back negative. He also said that as healthy as the bull was, that if he contracted Johne's when he was a calf, then it started showing up when he was a now, which would be around the time or a little late; and he had watery scours for a year , then the bull would be emaciated or dead by now. He said that it was not just something that they could handle for a long time. Once it hit them, then they would begin to waste away from the diarrhea. It kills them fast.
Now he want to do a nose culture for the BVD test to see if he is an active carrier. It is so hot that I do not want to stress him out. It has been 98 and 100* here, and the humidity has been sky high. I still do not think he has BVD.
I actually think he had acidosis. The more I think about it, the bull did not have the scours when he came to the house. I may have thought that he did, but I remember going in the trailer and walking him out of the when he got here. And if he had of painted the walls and the floor of the trailer with the squirts, you better believe I would have noticed it. I had forgot about going in behind him.
When he got to the house, he was fed the same thing the cows were fed. Distillers grain. I think that it was too much for his system. I was not over feeding it, but I think possibly that some cattle are more sensitive to it than others. The Momensin has started a change. Between six cows and him, I am feeding 1 gallon of distillers grain for the pound of feed per animal, and one half gallon of Momensin, because the cows refused to eat a level any higher than that. I had them up to twice as much Momensin as that, and they ate it, but soon, they started backing away from the trough.
I started backing off of the additive, and they came back and ate a lower dosage.
They sure didn't need the feed, but 1 1/2 gallons of feed between 6 animals is not going to make or break an animal if you need to treat them in some feed.
OK.......... These pictures were taken in between rains. The only time the cows will come out in this 100* weather. If the sun pops out for a minute, they run for the trees. So the pictures are not the brightest. They also have made another mud hole to stay cool in. I will not take the mud hole away from them in this heat. They have been closed outside of the barn and started one on the side of the barn that is shaded. Just like a bunch of pigs.
Here is Grit, He is a 5 year old and I have been telling someone is was 3. Might have been the vet or I may have told it here. Oh well, I will have to straighten that out. If he has been on our farm since a yearling, and was exposed to Johne's as a calf, then it would be kind of late for it to show up now, wouldn't it? Dang, what have I been sniffing? His rear end makes me want to buy a large pack of Scott Tissue and 3 tubes of Boudreaux's Butt Paste.
This is the best cow I have, after she had her 1st heifer, "Pud". Then I have kept her 1st heifer with me too. She is 333, and her milk is shown as being 10 on her registration papers. I was looking for low milk numbers. When she has a calf, she gives a lot of milk, and the calf pulls the weight off of her. I took the heifer calf off of her when it was 4 1/2 months old. Her daughter and granddaughter do not lose any weight at all. So it takes a couple of months to get her back in shape. She is still needing some weight on her, but she is eating the clover and I am not putting out enough feed to fatten anything up. Maybe the Momensin will help her gain some weight. She looks much like her daughter when she gets back in shape. She just doesn't have a whole lot of time to stay that way until the next baby shows up.
This is 333's first heifer, "Pud," out of a different bull than Boomer. She and Boomer have had several bulls. But the last heifer they had, I brought her home too.
This is Pud's first heifer calf out of Boomer. "Kizzie."
This is Kizzie's first heifer calf out of a small bull. It is a very small bull. "Sugar." She is 7 months old. She will be a smaller framed cow. This one is for Doc.
Here is the cow that is out of the 7 framed cow we have, "Ida." This cow just had her 1st bull calf out of a 5.5 frame bull. She seems to keep growing. She is pushing 7 now. I do not care for her bull calf, he is small, and lacks the kick.
Rachel is a Boomer cow, and she has a really thick barrel. She had her first calf this year out of the 5.5 bull. After he was born, she stepped on him a few hours after he was born. She had his tail was broken in 3 places, and he was scuffed up in the back end. I hope things go better this year.
This was the last heifer calf that I had out of Boomer. She is out of 333 and I weaned her pretty early. She was about to drain her mother. My husband usually left the calves on her till they were around 7 months old, and she looked like a skeleton. So her name is "Bee." She is almost 6 months old.
So that is where everything stands as of now. I will just have to do the nasal swab on Grit. I am anxious to see his calves this fall and hope that everything is healthy.
Chuckie
