Most Valuable Polled Hereford Cow

[HerefordSire]

Which cow, if sold this year, would bring in the most amount of money. Please list the reasons why this is the best cow.

 

[LFF]

FELTONS KATE P38 [DOD] (P42223213


Would not bring the most money and is not a attractive cow. She is a genetic tool that the economists and accountants say is the most profitable type cow for the Hereford breed. I can understand peoples doubts , but do folks really think that the association is wrong in how they figured the profit indexes? They spent many dollars to determine were the true value is for the breed to increase profit. I'm not talking for the show circuit or the money trader type breeders, but for the real world breeder.

The association has determined that quality is worth more than pounds and large ribeyes. I know that for some there are times when that is not so, for example if you do not retain ownership or sell your calves on a graded system.

Kate can and should be improved upon , but all in all she is one of the top. She could never win a show or sell for high dollars , however she is extremely rare within the Hereford breed and if you owned a herd of similar cows you would be setting upon a gold mine.

 

[novatech]

They spent many dollars to determine were the true value is for the breed to increase profit.

Well you got me setting on pins and needles. What did the association come up with? What is so great about the cow that makes it valuable? I'm not about to argue with you about this but would really like to know why they think she is of such high genetic quality.

 

[Avalon]

I assume that it is a cow that has consistantly produced top (proven) offspring via a multitude of top quality embryos. It cant hurt to have a few sons in stud somwhere. So please tell us who is this industious cow :?:

 

[LFF]

They spent many dollars to determine were the true value is for the breed to increase profit.

Well you got me setting on pins and needles. What did the association come up with? What is so great about the cow that makes it valuable? I'm not about to argue with you about this but would really like to know why they think she is of such high genetic quality.

I'm not going to argue either. As for how the association figured the Profit indexes I can not explain it, however there is a link on the Hereford Association home page that explains it. She meets the requirements.


Kate is the top in the indexess
Here is the associations statement on the indexes. Enjoy the reading.
http://www.hereford.org/Acrobat/Perf/ProfitIndexes.pdf

 

[LFF]

I assume that it is a cow that has consistantly produced top (proven) offspring via a multitude of top quality embryos. It cant hurt to have a few sons in stud somwhere. So please tell us who is this industious cow :?:

Often times the best cows never recieve the marketing that top sale producers give their cows.

 

[Chris H]

After looking up her current EPD's, I had to find a picture, here it is:

Look at the website I pulled that from, it's worth the time:
http://www.efbeef.com/EF_Dams/Feltons_Kate_P38.htm

 

[Herefords.US]

I had to give this some thought. I finally approached the question with - "If I could have any Hereford cow in North America, which cow would it be?"

She's not polled but this cow would have to be at/near the top of MY list:

C Ms Pure Gold 2003

http://hoffmanranch.com/controller/...249cmVhZCZjcGx1Z2luPXNyem55cmYmcmVjaWQ9MTA2Mw

What makes me sick is that she sold in Colyer's first Internet sale for $3500, a sale where I bought the first two heifers that put me back into the cattle business and I paid an equal amount for one of them. This heifer(2003) was my second choice and she sold first, but I passed on her because I was afraid her dam was TOO small! A picture of her as a calf and her dam can be seen in the link below:

http://hereford.com/sales/2002/02_Heifer_Auction/2003.htm

If I had only known then what I've learned since!

George

 

[greenwillowhereford II]

Largent and Sons claimed that their Oxley cow, was it "Christie" ? was one of the greatest.

As far as real world potential benefit, I'd have to say that the dam of Day Zato Tone 943 would have to be near the top at 16 years old and still looks like a young cow. Not many can give you the close ties to yesterday's genetic giants combined with decent weaning weights and the tremendous body type so desperately needed for this era. JMO

 

[greenwillowhereford II]

Just realized that neither of these cows meets the polled criteria either.

 

[novatech]

They spent many dollars to determine were the true value is for the breed to increase profit.

Well you got me setting on pins and needles. What did the association come up with? What is so great about the cow that makes it valuable? I'm not about to argue with you about this but would really like to know why they think she is of such high genetic quality.

I'm not going to argue either. As for how the association figured the Profit indexes I can not explain it, however there is a link on the Hereford Association home page that explains it. She meets the requirements.


Kate is the top in the indexess
Here is the associations statement on the indexes. Enjoy the reading.
http://www.hereford.org/Acrobat/Perf/ProfitIndexes.pdf

Thanks for the link. I will have to read it about 3 more time before I really understand, but I got the basics for now.
I agree with how they put a pencil to the cow and came up with true economic values. This puts things where the real cattleman can benefit. I especially like the way the figure value on F1 production. We all don,t raise show stock.
I also went to the other link posted, http://www.efbeef.com/EF_Dams/Feltons_Kate_P38.htm, She is one heck of a cow.

 

[Chris H]

Just realized that neither of these cows meets the polled criteria either.

With the polled and horned back together in the same registry, I think that it's going to be harder and harder to find a homozygous polled Hereford cow in a few years. And anyone who thinks they can stick with Remitall Polled Hereford bloodlines and stay 100% polled has not bred any cattle from them. It continues to amaze me that 8E has no horned ancestors in the last 40 years, but he is not homozygous polled!

 

[S&S Farms]

Usually the first one at my place to fall over dead

Jeff

 

[HerefordSire]

Just realized that neither of these cows meets the polled criteria either.

With the polled and horned back together in the same registry, I think that it's going to be harder and harder to find a homozygous polled Hereford cow in a few years. And anyone who thinks they can stick with Remitall Polled Hereford bloodlines and stay 100% polled has not bred any cattle from them. It continues to amaze me that 8E has no horned ancestors in the last 40 years, but he is not homozygous polled!

That is very interesting. How did you figure that out? Also, how would one breed it out....maybe cross an 8E with an 8E?

 

[HerefordSire]

FELTONS KATE P38 [DOD] (P42223213


Would not bring the most money and is not a attractive cow. She is a genetic tool that the economists and accountants say is the most profitable type cow for the Hereford breed. I can understand peoples doubts , but do folks really think that the association is wrong in how they figured the profit indexes? They spent many dollars to determine were the true value is for the breed to increase profit. I'm not talking for the show circuit or the money trader type breeders, but for the real world breeder.

The association has determined that quality is worth more than pounds and large ribeyes. I know that for some there are times when that is not so, for example if you do not retain ownership or sell your calves on a graded system.

Kate can and should be improved upon , but all in all she is one of the top. She could never win a show or sell for high dollars , however she is extremely rare within the Hereford breed and if you owned a herd of similar cows you would be setting upon a gold mine.

Here are the ranking of profit indices for fall 2008 (warning .pdf download):

http://www.hereford.org/Acrobat/Perf/F08_topdam.pdf

As you can see for the BMI index, Feltons Kate was the number one cow and at the very top of the list. Below her in the number five spot is one of my cows. Does this mean my cow is the fifth most valuable for BMI production in the entire country?
:cboy:

 

[rocket2222]

FELTONS KATE P38 [DOD] (P42223213


Would not bring the most money and is not a attractive cow. She is a genetic tool that the economists and accountants say is the most profitable type cow for the Hereford breed. I can understand peoples doubts , but do folks really think that the association is wrong in how they figured the profit indexes? They spent many dollars to determine were the true value is for the breed to increase profit. I'm not talking for the show circuit or the money trader type breeders, but for the real world breeder.

The association has determined that quality is worth more than pounds and large ribeyes. I know that for some there are times when that is not so, for example if you do not retain ownership or sell your calves on a graded system.

Kate can and should be improved upon , but all in all she is one of the top. She could never win a show or sell for high dollars , however she is extremely rare within the Hereford breed and if you owned a herd of similar cows you would be setting upon a gold mine.

Here are the ranking of profit indices for fall 2008 (warning .pdf download):

http://www.hereford.org/Acrobat/Perf/F08_topdam.pdf

As you can see for the BMI index, Feltons Kate was the number one cow and at the very top of the list. Below her in the number five spot is one of my cows. Does this mean my cow is the fifth most valuable for BMI production in the entire country?
:cboy:

Lets see now, she fifth on the list, and and they start at the top and work there way down, eerrrrrr, Yes.
Good thing you don't have a job where you have to add a bunch of numbers

 

[HerefordSire]

Lets see now, she fifth on the list, and and they start at the top and work there way down, eerrrrrr, Yes.
Good thing you don't have a job where you have to add a bunch of numbers


I am questioning the accuracy of such a list. It sounds like to me the AHA really pissed some big time breeders off and they are all quitting the breed. Heck, if a little guy like me can have the #5 cow, what does that tell you?

 

[redfornow]

Heck, if a little guy like me can have the #5 cow, what does that tell you?

That you know more about numbers than cows?


But thats just a guess???

 

[HerefordSire]

Heck, if a little guy like me can have the #5 cow, what does that tell you?

That you know more about numbers than cows?


But thats just a guess???

LOL.

You are exactly correct. Good job! What is the highest ranking of a recently dispersed herd?

 

[redfornow]

Heck, if a little guy like me can have the #5 cow, what does that tell you?

That you know more about numbers than cows?


But thats just a guess???

LOL.

You are exactly correct. Good job! What is the highest ranking of a recently dispersed herd?

Didnt check? Doesnt matter!
Cows cant read!!!

Red