more questions on clover

[Beefy]

I have a few questions regarding clover that i could probably research but it would be easier just to ask someone on here. so here goes:

how tolerant is clover of harrowing? are the roots pretty tough (not sure if legume roots are called "roots")

what if i want to spray some bermuda next year (spring) to get rid of some weedy grasses-- i'm going to lose any clover i have or will it be "dormant" enough at some point when it warms up.

i'm thinking i would be better off with clover/bahia combinations and that way i can keep my bermuda fields weed free without sacrificing any clover now or later on.

 

[Beefy]

have white clover now. want to add crimson clover in the future.

 

[ROCK-N-W]

I have Bahai, bermuda grass and a clover mixture.
Clover is like Viagra for your bull. good protein.
I used a clover very close to Patriot without the price. Mixed it in my cattle feed. Fed it to my Angus cows who hung out at the flowing well now have Clover all up and down every ditch line.
In the fall ya get to see how thick it really is.
I have since added a couple other types they have not done as well

 

[backhoeboogie]

I let mine go to seed. The cows kept it cropped down most of the winter. When I pulled them off it grew like crazy, topped out with seed.

 

[ROCK-N-W]

I knew if I thought about it long enough it would come to me.
I used a Landino Clover had great success.
Just like backhoeboogie said grows like crazy in a mixed grass pature.

 

[ROCK-N-W]

I knew if I thought about it long enough it would come to me.
I used a Landino Clover had great success.
Just like backhoeboogie said grows like crazy in a mixed grass pasture.

 

[ROCK-N-W]

I knew if I thought about it long enough it would come to me.
I used a Landino Clover had great success.
Just like backhoeboogie said grows like crazy in a mixed grass pasture.

 

[Beefy]

ladino spreads alot underground too, right? i guess that is what i have. (it just showed up)

 

[ROCK-N-W]

I purchased mine had it mixed in a blend with Pensacola Bahai,
Argintine Bahai, brown millet, & Common Bermuda.
Also tried a couple others over the years but down here that Landino works well in this sandy soil, about 16+ percent protein.

 

[Beefy]

mine just showed up a few years ago in a paddy or two. it was all over the place last year, but still kind of spotty. hoping for a lot more this year.

 

[TexLonghornRanch]

I planted Apache Arrowleaf Clover. It's is resistant to bean yellow mosaic virus (BYMV) lethal wilt.

http://www.easttexasseedcompany.com/page8.html

 

[ROCK-N-W]

ladino spreads alot underground too, right?

Don't know if it spreads under ground or not but it does seed and spread well.
When I go out later I'll pull some up and check it.

 

[Beefy]

one thing i was wondering about tho- is if i harrow it some will it come back.

 

[backhoeboogie]

one thing i was wondering about tho- is if i harrow it some will it come back.

The return on seed was something like 400 to 1. If you have a 50% germination rate, it should be exponential.

The harrow could wind up depositing the seed too deep. That's what my fear would be. Everything I am reading on clover varieties all list 1/2" as the deepest depth.

 

[Nowland Farms]

Beefy,

You know this but..... any broadleaf herbicide that you use to control weeds will kill clover. I found this out the hard way a few years back when I planted my fescue fields and came in a year later and planted a mixture of crimmson red and ladino white clover. I also had weeds so I sprayed a 2-4-D based mixture. Killed most of the clover.

 

[Jogeephus]

one thing i was wondering about tho- is if i harrow it some will it come back.

I don't know how you are going to harrow but I lightly disced a bahia pasture so I could plant some crimson. 5 years earlier I had planted some Dutch white. After lightly discing, I had a fantastic stand of white clover - I'm assuming from dormant seed - as well as all the crimson I planted.

I'm sure a broadleaf herbicide will kill any clover plants but this incident makes me wonder how much seed is lying dormant in and on the ground waiting for its chance in the sunlight. I don't know the answer but am curious.

 

[Crowderfarms]

Clover seed can lie up to 20 years dormant. Only thing I know lies longer is Cockleburrs. 40 years.

 

[MrBilly]

Around here, Lidino clover, is synonomous with all white clovers. Within Lidino there are small, intermediate and large varieties. There are terminology issues here, look at the website below:

http://extension.missouri.edu/explore/a ... g04639.htm

All herbicides will kill clover. If the clover has been in the field for a number of years and is a seed producer when you spray the clover it will die, but if there is a good seed bank, new clover will reappear - I have seen this repeatedly in old stands of clover which we had to spray because of weeds getting out of control.

Billy

 

[Jogeephus]

Has anyone tried Durano? Extension agent suggested I plant some three years ago. I tried a plot of it alongside some Dixie. Wasn't too impressed with it the first year but I really got some respect for it three years later in the peak of our drought in July. It was still green and blooming. :shock: I was amazed. Doesn't seem to give as much forage as Dixie on my dirt but it sure is persistant and it supposedly provides more N than the Dixie which is one of the main reasons I plant it anyway.

 

[dun]

Around here, Lidino clover, is synonomous with all white clovers. Within Lidino there are small, intermediate and large varieties. There are terminology issues here, look at the website below:

http://extension.missouri.edu/explore/a ... g04639.htm

All herbicides will kill clover. If the clover has been in the field for a number of years and is a seed producer when you spray the clover it will die, but if there is a good seed bank, new clover will reappear - I have seen this repeatedly in old stands of clover which we had to spray because of weeds getting out of control.

Billy

Even Remedy will kill clover. Found that out last year spraying for blackberrys.