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I figured out several years ago. Just a small investment like a. 50 horse tractor with a post driver and fel. Will replace three men . I'll have my money back plus in a year, still have the tractor, and also be free of the liability and problems that three people bring with them...
 
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callmefence":1sca6oob said:
I figured out several years ago. Just a small investment like a. 50 horse tractor with a post driver and fel. Will replace three men . I'll have my money back plus in a year, still have the tractor, and also be free of the liability and problems that three people bring with them...

I completely understand that Fence. The video explains the inevitably of mainstream automation due to its economic function. It makes me wonder what kind of world this will become with the projected population growth and decrease in job opportunities of ALL varieties. I may be wrong, but I'm a firm believer that people with nothing to do tend to be problematic. Work is a necessary function of humanity....
 

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I had a customer just the other day telling about how the new baler pickers and strippers have hurt his business.
The new machines have eliminated a boll buggy, module builder, tractors for both, two hired hands to run them.
Harvest used to be big business keeping all that running, but now it's one machine
 

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bball":x86o7pzt said:
callmefence":x86o7pzt said:
I figured out several years ago. Just a small investment like a. 50 horse tractor with a post driver and fel. Will replace three men . I'll have my money back plus in a year, still have the tractor, and also be free of the liability and problems that three people bring with them...

I completely understand that Fence. The video explains the inevitably of mainstream automation due to its economic function. It makes me wonder what kind of world this will become with the projected population growth and decrease in job opportunities of ALL varieties. I may be wrong, but I'm a firm believer that people with nothing to do tend to be problematic. Work is a necessary function of humanity....

A lot of the countries around the world are in negative growth now. If it was not for the immigrants to America having more than one child America would not be replacing the dieing population with new people. There has been an upsurge in 5 year birth control in America in the last few months. Fewer people means fewer customers for the machines to provide products for.
 
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hurleyjd":1nprsynd said:
bball":1nprsynd said:
callmefence":1nprsynd said:
I figured out several years ago. Just a small investment like a. 50 horse tractor with a post driver and fel. Will replace three men . I'll have my money back plus in a year, still have the tractor, and also be free of the liability and problems that three people bring with them...

I completely understand that Fence. The video explains the inevitably of mainstream automation due to its economic function. It makes me wonder what kind of world this will become with the projected population growth and decrease in job opportunities of ALL varieties. I may be wrong, but I'm a firm believer that people with nothing to do tend to be problematic. Work is a necessary function of humanity....

A lot of the countries around the world are in negative growth now. If it was not for the immigrants to America having more than one child America would not be replacing the dieing population with new people. There has been an upsurge in 5 year birth control in America in the last few months. Fewer people means fewer customers for the machines to provide products for.

Projected 8 billion worldwide by 2024 and 11 billion by 2100. While world population growth peaked in The 60's, a continual upswing of 50% is still substantial. Especially when viewed with respect to the link posted.
 

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bball":1nyp7vr5 said:
hurleyjd":1nyp7vr5 said:
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I completely understand that Fence. The video explains the inevitably of mainstream automation due to its economic function. It makes me wonder what kind of world this will become with the projected population growth and decrease in job opportunities of ALL varieties. I may be wrong, but I'm a firm believer that people with nothing to do tend to be problematic. Work is a necessary function of humanity....

A lot of the countries around the world are in negative growth now. If it was not for the immigrants to America having more than one child America would not be replacing the dieing population with new people. There has been an upsurge in 5 year birth control in America in the last few months. Fewer people means fewer customers for the machines to provide products for.

Projected 8 billion worldwide by 2024 and 11 billion by 2100. While world population growth peaked in The 60's, a continual upswing of 50% is still substantial. Especially when viewed with respect to the link posted.

I will agree that the replacing the blue collar jobs with machines will be a problem.
 
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I will share a brief glimpse into my occasional 'pessimistic' side... as I watched the link, I started thinking, 'how long before these computers and autos "learn" (or decide) that humans are the virus here... I know, too much terminator and matrix.
 

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I will share a brief glimpse into my occasional 'pessimistic' side... as I watched the link, I started thinking, 'how long before these computers and autos "learn" (or decide) that humans are the virus here... I know, too much terminator and matrix.
HAL started it all
 

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dun":1wqpzjau said:
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I will share a brief glimpse into my occasional 'pessimistic' side... as I watched the link, I started thinking, 'how long before these computers and autos "learn" (or decide) that humans are the virus here... I know, too much terminator and matrix.
HAL started it all

HAL: It can only be attributable to human error.
 

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Very entertaining to watch. I think I am too far along to worry.

What occurred to me is the coming of a society where animal husbandry means androids caring for humans. It would be the ultimate social state. No one works. Everyone shares in the benefits of the services and productivity provided by robots and androids. The ultimate socialism.
 

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Margonme":2tiw2ml7 said:
Very entertaining to watch. I think I am too far along to worry.

What occurred to me is the coming of a society where animal husbandry means androids caring for humans. It would be the ultimate social state. No one works. Everyone shares in the benefits of the services and productivity provided by robots and androids. The ultimate socialism.
Could Fahrenheit 451 be far away?
 
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dun":fw51u5wq said:
Margonme":fw51u5wq said:
Very entertaining to watch. I think I am too far along to worry.

What occurred to me is the coming of a society where animal husbandry means androids caring for humans. It would be the ultimate social state. No one works. Everyone shares in the benefits of the services and productivity provided by robots and androids. The ultimate socialism.
Could Fahrenheit 451 be far away?

With robots as firemen?
 

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dun":1k8szi40 said:
Margonme":1k8szi40 said:
Very entertaining to watch. I think I am too far along to worry.

What occurred to me is the coming of a society where animal husbandry means androids caring for humans. It would be the ultimate social state. No one works. Everyone shares in the benefits of the services and productivity provided by robots and androids. The ultimate socialism.
Could Fahrenheit 451 be far away?

Books are almost obsolete. I had to refresh my memory on that. I do remember the movie.

There are many strange changes ahead. Would be fun to see what our society is like 100 years from now.
 

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dun":13jjbxqi said:
Margonme":13jjbxqi said:
Very entertaining to watch. I think I am too far along to worry.

What occurred to me is the coming of a society where animal husbandry means androids caring for humans. It would be the ultimate social state. No one works. Everyone shares in the benefits of the services and productivity provided by robots and androids. The ultimate socialism.
Could Fahrenheit 451 be far away?

With robots as firemen?
Nope. No paper books, just everything electronic including the brainwashing
 
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Could Fahrenheit 451 be far away?

With robots as firemen?
Nope. No paper books, just everything electronic including the brainwashing

That's what I mean. Instead of burning paper books, they would be 'burning' (deleting) any and all books stored in electronic devices. Basically, still serving the role of firemen as described in 451. Your reference to 451 is quite relevant.
 
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The link makes concepts presented in literature like Fahrenheit 451 and Brave New World seem not so far fetched; but instead of big brother being another human or group of humans, imagine big brother being a master computer system.

ETA: even your reference to HAL had my wheels turning. I had forgotten how thought -provoking that book was as well.
 
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Margonme":qymgre5j said:
Very entertaining to watch. I think I am too far along to worry.

What occurred to me is the coming of a society where animal husbandry means androids caring for humans. It would be the ultimate social state. No one works. Everyone shares in the benefits of the services and productivity provided by robots and androids. The ultimate socialism.
I think the narrator was a computer. Maybe the androids would get humanized, become jealous, lazy & revolt. Then we would be their slaves. "ultimate socialism"..... Regardless, socialism would , as it always does, eventually fail. Look no further than present day Venezuela. People are reduced to hunting cats, dogs and pigeons for a meal. Socialism is in a way, a form of automation. Automatically entitled to something just for being alive.
 

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zirlottkim":17os896y said:
Margonme":17os896y said:
Very entertaining to watch. I think I am too far along to worry.

What occurred to me is the coming of a society where animal husbandry means androids caring for humans. It would be the ultimate social state. No one works. Everyone shares in the benefits of the services and productivity provided by robots and androids. The ultimate socialism.
I think the narrator was a computer. Maybe the androids would get humanized, become jealous, lazy & revolt. Then we would be their slaves. "ultimate socialism"..... Regardless, socialism would , as it always does, eventually fail. Look no further than present day Venezuela. People are reduced to hunting cats, dogs and pigeons for a meal. Socialism is in a way, a form of automation. Automatically entitled to something just for being alive.

Yes. Automation providing services. A form of entitlement. Androids performing every function and service to the extent that every human is a ward of society - the ultimate limit that socialism can reach.
 

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