Mad As He*ll

[I luv herfrds]

I'm so mad and upset I almost can't stand it.

Getting ready to wean and ship our calves at the end of the month. We start taking the pairs a round bale every few days to get the calves into learning to eat hay. Works pretty good. Over half are now eating.

Well I took out a bale yesterday afternoon. As I go through the gate I look down and see a pile of cainine poop there with what looks like Hereford hair in it. I was really hoping it was not.
Guess I ain't that lucky. We are missing a steer calf. Got a pretty good idea of which calf it is.
Cows are refusing to go out on the flats to graze and are hanging around the eastern part of the pasture. They are staying bunched and no calves are being left alone.
Pretty sure it is 033 86# steer calf out of cow 227 an 8 yo cow.

Now if it was the wolves my son swa this weekend or not I don't know. Cannot find any sign except that pile of poop and another pile that is within sight of our new house.

where are those tree hugging wolf kissing greenies to come help me find what bits and pieces are left of this calf?

 

[pdfangus]

old time old line advice....

shoot ...

shovel ...

shut up ....

 

[highgrit]

The three S's is great advice, "don't get mad get even". Everybody that has livestock needs to try and kill every varmit they can,and do it any way possible. Good Luck.

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

Do not shoot, shovel, and shutup. If it has a tracking chip you just got busted. Gut shootem, that way they can travel for a long way before they die.

 

[pdfangus]

Do not shoot, shovel, and shutup. If it has a tracking chip you just got busted. Gut shootem, that way they can travel for a long way before they die.

never thought of that.....

most of our varmits don't have chips.....

guess that could be factor in dog problems these days as well. lot of dogs are microchipped but I don't think anybody has tracking capability.

I love dogs but I don't let mine chase folks livestock.

In the western part of our state the state is planning on bringing in elk. the cattlemen out there have pretty well got thier panties in a wad over it and I suppose justly so. I would be upset if they dropped em on me.

We are now having to deal with bears and have not had bears around here in fifty years.
Rumors and photos of cougar sightings as well and I have never heard of one around here until the last few years. My son has bumped into a large male bear three times in the last two years while working around the farm he is manager of. Twice it was nearly too close for comfort but the bear went the other way both times. Might be why my mare threw me when I was riding over there last year.

 

[3waycross]

Do not shoot, shovel, and shutup. If it has a tracking chip you just got busted. Gut shootem, that way they can travel for a long way before they die.

I am pretty sure they can't track them with a microchip. You have to be pretty close to use that method. What you DON"T want to do is shoot one with a collar on. Those they can track.

 

[milkmaid]

I'm not an advocate of gut shooting any animal - frustration with the idiots in the government isn't an excuse for deliberately doing something that inhumane. If you're going to kill it, it should die instantly - and then chuck its body into a fast moving river or back of a north-bound semi so it can't be traced to you. :P

 

[Alan]

If you're going to kill it, it should die instantly - and then chuck its body into a fast moving river or back of a north-bound semi so it can't be traced to you. :P

:shock: :shock: :shock: MILKMAID! This is a whole new side to you I would have never guessed it! I like it! :lol2:

Alan

 

[TexasBred]

I'm not an advocate of gut shooting any animal - frustration with the idiots in the government isn't an excuse for deliberately doing something that inhumane. If you're going to kill it, it should die instantly - and then chuck its body into a fast moving river or back of a north-bound semi so it can't be traced to you. :P

Just haul it down the road about a mile, through it out on the road, run over it and then wait on the buzzards. Varmits get run over all the time.

 

[I luv herfrds]

I love you guys, do you know that! :D :D :heart: ;-)

thanks for the advice and the chuckles.
Still looking for what might remain of the calf and have one cow unaccounted for.
Going out again today to look.

 

[bigbull338]

sounds like its time to go hunting.can you move the cows to another pasture so yall can watch emm better.

 

[Dave]

If you shoot a varmit it is best to use a big enough gun that the bullet exits out the other side.

There probably isn't enough traffic in ILH's neighborhood to put a good highway pizza job on a varmit on the road before the authorities came along. I am with Milkmaid on the fast moving river or north bound truck. But I sure wouldn't leave the evidence on my own property or even in my own neighborhood.

 

[I luv herfrds]

Found the cow this morning alive. Still haven't found the calf or whats left of it.
Looked in the coulee I heard coyotes howling in at 5am today, nothing there.
The herd was split into 2 groups. One was still up on the east side of the pasture and the other group was down at the prarie dog town. Hate that area. It looks flat, but there are so many swells and dips that the whole herd can lay down in them and you can't see them.

Looking for magpies haven't seen any yet.

bigbull we are going to move them to the winter pasture after the first. That place has some holes to hide in worse. Lost a cow in that pasture back in 1998. Only way we found her was horse back. Nothing but bones by then. Can't get a truck or even a 4-wheeler in some of those places.

Dave if it had happened during the peak of the harvest that critter would have flat.

 

[GMN]

Do you have any dogs (pets) outside? They are great deterrents for any animal wandering into the farm?

We have 3 and never have coyote issues, they are around I hear them, but they never come close to my baby calves.

GMN

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

3way i work with AGF management people everday, they have elk that can be tracked 24 hours a day, viva satilite. Them elk don't got collars on.

 

[3waycross]

3way i work with AGF management people everday, they have elk that can be tracked 24 hours a day, viva satilite. Them elk don't got collars on.

I guess I better rethink my poaching program then :shock:

 

[gimpyrancher]

AGF management uses public funds, right? They can afford chips that can be traced. The chips in my dogs require a scanner being inches away from the chip to read. Difference between what we can afford and what gov'mnt can afford. :hat:

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

3way ain't thinking you are the poaching type. Thing is ILH might be losing money to a protected varmit,no use losing more in fines for getting caught killing one of the dammed things. Gimpyrancher has it right our tax dollars pay for some high priced stuff.

 

[HOSS]

If you have a neighbor you can't stand just shoot the collared or chipped varmint and bury it in their back yard. That way you get two birds with one stone so to speak :shock: :cowboy: :lol2:

 

[I luv herfrds]

Son has been looking for any sign of the missing calf too. He found another pile of canine poop full of hair about a half mile from the first.
Nothing other then that.