Linebreding or inbreeding???

[Angus Cowman]

I was always told that Linebreeding is a cross between relatives that improves the offspring
and Inbreeding is a cross between relatives that has ill effects on the offspring

so in short it is called Linebreeding when it works and Inbreeding when it doesn't

So from my limited observation most of the inbreeding has happened in Arkansas and a few other southern states

 

[LazyARanch]

AC

you just LOVE throwing firecrackers into the tinderbox don't ya??? :lol:

 

[3waycross]

AC I hope you still own that missle silo in the back 40, cuz your'e gonna need a very deep place to hide when this one gets rolling.

I do however have a dog in this fight since, on the hillbilly side of my family(Missouri) my mothers sister married her 3rd cousin. The resulting offspring were and still are very handsome/pretty. That's the linebred part. When you talk to them the inbreeding makes itself quickly apparent.

 

[Angus Cowman]

AC I hope you still own that missle silo in the back 40, cuz your'e gonna need a very deep place to hide when this one gets rolling.

I do however have a dog in this fight since, on the hillbilly side of my family(Missouri) my mothers sister married her 3rd cousin. The resulting offspring were and still are very handsome/pretty. That's the linebred part. When you talk to them the inbreeding makes itself quickly apparent.

They must of originally migrated up from the south :lol:

 

[Angus Cowman]

AC

you just LOVE throwing firecrackers into the tinderbox don't ya??? :lol:

I have also witnessed inbreeding coming out of the wisconsin area and maybe minnesooota is where the originated from :cowboy:

 

[Alan]

This should be interesting, this question has been posted before over the years and to me still lots of opinions.

If I understand it correctly line breeding is two not so close relatives, such as grandsire can be grandsire in the top and bottom of the pedigree. Also I'm under the impression that half siblings is considered line breeding.

Inbreeding would be closer relatives, such as father and daughter, mother and son full siblings.

Let's see how close I am.
Alan

 

[3waycross]

This should be interesting, this question has been posted before over the years and to me still lots of opinions.

If I understand it correctly line breeding is two not so close relatives, such as grandsire can be grandsire in the top and bottom of the pedigree. Also I'm under the impression that half siblings is considered line breeding.

Inbreeding would be closer relatives, such as father and daughter, mother and son full siblings.

Let's see how close I am.
Alan

Alan you need to read it again. He is NOT talking about cows. What you suggest is not inbreeding it's incest.

 

[Angus Cowman]

This should be interesting, this question has been posted before over the years and to me still lots of opinions.

If I understand it correctly line breeding is two not so close relatives, such as grandsire can be grandsire in the top and bottom of the pedigree. Also I'm under the impression that half siblings is considered line breeding.

Inbreeding would be closer relatives, such as father and daughter, mother and son full siblings.

Let's see how close I am.
Alan

Alan you need to read it again. He is NOT talking about cows. What you suggest is not inbreeding it's incest.

Now what would give you that impression :cowboy:

 

[Alan]

I was always told that Linebreeding is a cross between relatives that improves the offspring
and Inbreeding is a cross between relatives that has ill effects on the offspring

so in short it is called Linebreeding when it works and Inbreeding when it doesn't

To me this appears to be refering to cattle, it is the cattle breeds board.

So from my limited observation most of the inbreeding has happened in Arkansas and a few other southern states

This i took as a light hearted joke in closing..... my mistake????

Alan

 

[Alan]

This should be interesting, this question has been posted before over the years and to me still lots of opinions.

If I understand it correctly line breeding is two not so close relatives, such as grandsire can be grandsire in the top and bottom of the pedigree. Also I'm under the impression that half siblings is considered line breeding.

Inbreeding would be closer relatives, such as father and daughter, mother and son full siblings.

Let's see how close I am.
Alan

Alan you need to read it again. He is NOT talking about cows. What you suggest is not inbreeding it's incest.

Now what would give you that impression :cowboy:

Well I guess you would have to be from Arkansas or Missouri to be in tuned to that type of humor. :banana:

Alan

 

[Idaman]

Soo, are you saying that the women from those areas are getting more beautiful but strong and the men are getting more weak and effeminate as in the closed populations of the south pacific islands?

In the people that I knew that were closely bred one of their particular signs was a deterioration in the hip and knee joints. This may have been due to a genetic defect in that line. :???:

 

[KNERSIE]

The only reason I see why linebreeding doesn't work in people is because its frowned upon if you cull hard enough.

 

[JHH]

The only reason I see why linebreeding doesn't work in people is because its frowned upon if you cull hard enough.

It did work, Adam and Eve. Then the sons and daughters.

50% max

Anyone read Jim Lents book? Jim has a very uniform constant herd. Weather it performs or not is another debate.

 

[1982vett]

I was always told that Linebreeding is a cross between relatives that improves the offspring
and Inbreeding is a cross between relatives that has ill effects on the offspring

so in short it is called Linebreeding when it works and Inbreeding when it doesn't

So from my limited observation most of the inbreeding has happened in Arkansas and a few other southern states

It's inbred when you are buying and linebred when you are selling. ... :lol2:

 

[KNERSIE]

The only reason I see why linebreeding doesn't work in people is because its frowned upon if you cull hard enough.

It did work, Adam and Eve. Then the sons and daughters.

50% max

Anyone read Jim Lents book? Jim has a very uniform constant herd. Weather it performs or not is another debate.

I have Jim's book, I also have seen many pics of his herd, my culling statement also applies in his case.

 

[JHH]

The only reason I see why linebreeding doesn't work in people is because its frowned upon if you cull hard enough.

It did work, Adam and Eve. Then the sons and daughters.

50% max

Anyone read Jim Lents book? Jim has a very uniform constant herd. Weather it performs or not is another debate.

I have Jim's book, I also have seen many pics of his herd, my culling statement also applies in his case.[/quote]

I agree.

 

[Angus Cowman]

The only reason I see why linebreeding doesn't work in people is because its frowned upon if you cull hard enough.

I know a few that definately needed culling or atleast sterilized so they couldn't reproduce

 

[3waycross]

The only reason I see why linebreeding doesn't work in people is because its frowned upon if you cull hard enough.

I know a few that definately needed culling or atleast sterilized so they couldn't reproduce

I have seen those also. Problem is they are not all linebred. There are some outcross genetics that don't work very well either.

 

[vclavin]

Found these:
Mating of closely related individuals. The opposite is outbreeding, the mating of unrelated organisms. Inbreeding is useful in keeping desirable characteristics or eliminating undesirable ones, but it often results in decreased vigour, size, and fertility of the offspring because of the combined effect of harmful genes that were recessive in both parents (see recessiveness). The closest type of inbreeding is self-fertilization. In linebreeding, mates are selected on the basis of their relationships to a certain superior ancestor. The backcross (crossing a first-generation hybrid with one of the parental types) is a common method of inbreeding.
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http://bowlingsite.mcf.com/genetics/inbreeding.html part of this article is below - good reading. Learned something new today! Thank you!

Breeders of purebred livestock have introduced a term, linebreeding, to cover the milder forms of inbreeding. Exactly what the difference is between linebreeding and inbreeding tends to be defined differently for each species and often for each breed within the species. On this definition, inbreeding at its most restrictive applies to what would be considered unquestioned incest in human beings - parent to offspring or a mating between full siblings. Uncle-niece, aunt-nephew, half sibling matings, and first cousin matings are called inbreeding by some people and linebreeding by others.

Valerie

 

[upfrombottom]

Inbreeding: You had to walk to town.

Linebreeding: You had a ride to town.

Outbreeding: You had a ride to Missouri.