Lim-flex or simmintal

[Ky cowboy]

Going to start looking at new bulls for a herd I lease. They are mixed cows of every color from red to white,the man I lease from has just been keeping a bull calf and making a herd Bill out of him and I finally convinced him to let me buy a bull. Angus is predominantly used in this area as is most places, but there are some sim-Angus and limflex bulls also. I went and looked at the limflex the other day and they looked good. Just wanting opinion on which breed to go with I'm really leaning towards the limflex. Thanks

 

[Lucky_P]

Well, having been breeding Simmental influence in some form or fashion since about 1983, I'm gonna recommend Simmental or SimAngus... but I've got nothing against LimFlex.
The market is gonna favor black calves here, so a homo black bull is in order, regardless of which way you go, just to respond to current market demands.

 

[Gators Rule]

My preference would probably be a SimAngus, though I don't have a discriminating thing to say about Limflex either. I would probably base my choice on which individual bull best suits my taste. Would definitely choose a Homo-Black bull regardless. If I was going to use the bull on a mixed up herd, I would rather have an above average Limflex than a marginal SimAngus....and vice-versa. I'm guessing that prices are going to be roughly about the same in your area, though I could be wrong.

 

[Anonymous]

you said youve looked at limflex why dont you do yourself a favor and look at semi or semiangus or even straight lim or angus and do a comparison im sure the breeders wont mind ,just my opinion going somthing like straight semi on mixed herd may straighten thing out a little , but it sounds like you are in a process of trying to straighten out the owners mess,not that im half the cow man some of these guy are but i have a question for you ! how many of the herd would you cull ?and why? sounds like you need to look at the most obvious areas you would improve .teet ect... then look at a bred and a background of a bull to see how it will help you improve the ones you{ would keep },becuse the ones you would cull cant be helped but there calves can!hope that made sense to ya but like i said im not the cow man some of these gentleman are just my thoughts out loud :2cents:

 

[Ky cowboy]

All of the cows are really nice cows good feet, bag disposition. But since he kept the last bull we've been getting a few with horns and a sink calf. Mainly wanting a homo black, and polled bull to try and get some sort of uniformity to the calf crop instead of crayon box it has been. We have several good breeders for Angus limflex and Simi in the area just wanting to get some opinions I do plan on going and looking at several other places before I choose

 

[sim.-ang.king]

Growth, and feeding wise, either will do.
But the Simmys will most likely have better carcass traits.
I know carcass doesn't matter to a lot of cow-calf guys, but it does matter to the guy who buys your steer.
And they have a way of remembering...

 

[frieghttrain]

Lim/flex.

 

[FlyingLSimmentals]

Simmental

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Angus

 

[Anonymous]

id get a semi or semi angus then Ky cowboy with semi angus your getting best of both worlds ,

 

[JMJ Farms]

Lim flex. If you can pick one with good milk EPDs you should have the option of retaining some nice heifers. Should compliment the mixed color cows as well.

 

[cfpinz]

I'll throw Gelbvieh in the mix as well.

Whatever breed you decide on, I'd consider going with a purebred bull to uniform things up a bit. Sounds like there's plenty of hodgepodge already.

 

[OzssieDave19]

Well. Ask your self what your aim is? Retaining daughters or if the whole alf crop is to be slaughter.

Slaughter go for the most suitable breed to provide calving ease and quick growing calves. And i would go for a simi or char in my book.

If you want to retain daughters maybe an angus bull. That will give you mostly black polled daughters which would be hopefully even.

Another option that can be the most direct way to get better cows. Join your current herd to say the simi churn out some great beef calves sell the whole crop and purchase some decent angus or first cross heifers to be your replac3ments.

Where i come from some guys buy cows calved so that they have the first calf out of the way and my family always joined lots of heifers and culled hard on fertility calving ease and if there are still too many pull out some old underperforming cows.

 

[cow pollinater]

I strongly prefer limousin or lim flex but there is lots of junk in both lim or sim(or hereford or angus or...). I'd go with the best quality I could get that is repeatable so that once you pick a direction you can stay the course. Go look and ask if you can take a few pictures. I would consider it rude to have pictures of my cattle shared on an open forum but if they were sent to certain people for advice I'd have no problem with it.
I really believe that money wise limousin is the better choice if the quality is similar.

 

[Lazy M]

I strongly prefer limousin or lim flex but there is lots of junk in both lim or sim(or hereford or angus or...). I'd go with the best quality I could get that is repeatable so that once you pick a direction you can stay the course. Go look and ask if you can take a few pictures. I would consider it rude to have pictures of my cattle shared on an open forum but if they were sent to certain people for advice I'd have no problem with it.
I really believe that money wise limousin is the better choice if the quality is similar.

I'd agree that you may be able to get more bang for your buck with Lim. Sims are hot right now, and quality angus will always demand top dollar. I think that many people are sleeping on Limousine. Maybe from some of the stigmas that were associated with the breed 20 yrs ago.. Local guy is a pretty big lim breeder and sells really nice bulls for much less than most angus..

 

[Stocker Steve]

I strongly prefer limousin or lim flex but there is lots of junk in both lim or sim(or hereford or angus or...). I'd go with the best quality I could get that is repeatable so that once you pick a direction you can stay the course. Go look and ask if you can take a few pictures. I would consider it rude to have pictures of my cattle shared on an open forum but if they were sent to certain people for advice I'd have no problem with it.
I really believe that money wise limousin is the better choice if the quality is similar.

I'd agree that you may be able to get more bang for your buck with Lim. Sims are hot right now, and quality angus will always demand top dollar. I think that many people are sleeping on Limousine. Maybe from some of the stigmas that were associated with the breed 20 yrs ago.. Local guy is a pretty big lim breeder and sells really nice bulls for much less than most angus..

3X

 

[Lazy M]

The local guy is also a character. When I was looking at one of his bulls I told him that I was a little concerned if the bull would have too heavy birth weights. He said, " Going by the epds you should be fine, but I can't guarantee that you'll never have a problem..all I can guarantee is quality calves. If you ever have to pull a dead calf by this bull, I guarantee you that it'll be a dam nice dead calf"

 

[Named'em Tamed'em]

Lim -Flex has been working here

 

[Ky hills]

I strongly prefer limousin or lim flex but there is lots of junk in both lim or sim(or hereford or angus or...). I'd go with the best quality I could get that is repeatable so that once you pick a direction you can stay the course. Go look and ask if you can take a few pictures. I would consider it rude to have pictures of my cattle shared on an open forum but if they were sent to certain people for advice I'd have no problem with it.
I really believe that money wise limousin is the better choice if the quality is similar.

I'd agree that you may be able to get more bang for your buck with Lim. Sims are hot right now, and quality angus will always demand top dollar. I think that many people are sleeping on Limousine. Maybe from some of the stigmas that were associated with the breed 20 yrs ago.. Local guy is a pretty big lim breeder and sells really nice bulls for much less than most angus..

Recently, I needed to replace a bull, shortly into breeding season, I intended to bring in another Angus bull. When I started looking around, I saw some Limousin bulls that were priced less, They seemed to be just as good of quality as the Angus that I had been getting. I don't have any experience with Limousins, and wouldn't breed him to heifers, but for cows I think it will ok. The bull is really growing into a nice looking bull, and has a really quiet disposition so far.

 

[Ky cowboy]

Does anyone in western ky area know of a good Angus breeder. After talking to lim- flex guy he doesn't have a homo black and homo polled. Went to 2 other Angus breeders one was out the other only had 1 left and couldn't guarantee anything on him because he lost his tag, didn't know any of his epds lineage etc. I contacted another seed stock guy around bowling green going down next week oak hollow farms there website showed some real nice bulls. Just curious who everyone close uses to get bulls. Or if anyone has bought from oak hollow farms