Kenny Thomas has a question

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Kenny asked me to post this label from a bag of minerals available in his market.

He would like to hear opinions please.

 

[Nesikep]

Calcium/Phosphorus ratio is all wrong for me... I would think many people would benefit from more than 2% P considering there's 14-16% Ca... Copper is a middle-of-the-road number.. Selenium is a little low for my part of the world.

 

[Aaron]

Has to be about one of the cheapest minerals around. Not much better than trace mineral salt.

 

[Margonme]

Kenny asked me to post this label from a bag of minerals available in his market.

He would like to hear opinions please.

What happened that he cannot ask himself?

 

[TexasBred]

Kenny asked me to post this label from a bag of minerals available in his market.

He would like to hear opinions please.

Other than the fact that it only has 2% phos. it's really not a bad mineral. All the micro minerals are within normal ranges. Can't see the list of ingredients but probably made up of a combination of oxides and sulfates. Perhaps elevated levels of phosphorus it not required in his area. Regardless this should lower the price considerably as phos is one of the most expensive items and usually comprises a large part of the mix. I'm just guessing but should be able to buy it for around $15 a bag.

 

[talltimber]

Not enough ctc to suit me, trying to avoid anaplasmosis. For around here anyhow.

 

[Margonme]

Kenny asked me to post this label from a bag of minerals available in his market.

He would like to hear opinions please.

Is the copper chelated? I will not use anything that is not chelated. I spent too many years involved in bioavailability studies. You can put copper in and get the same amount of copper out if it is not in a form that bovines can move into their cells.

 

[TexasBred]

Not enough ctc to suit me, trying to avoid anaplasmosis. For around here anyhow.

Get one with 4000 to 5000g/ton then. No guarantee it will avoid anaplas but will help control active infection caused by Anaplasma.

 

[TexasBred]

Kenny asked me to post this label from a bag of minerals available in his market.

He would like to hear opinions please.

Is the copper chelated? I will not use anything that is not chelated. I spent too many years involved in bioavailability studies. You can put copper in and get the same amount of copper out if it is not in a form that bovines can move into their cells.

Can't really tell without seeing the list of ingredients on reverse side of tag. Probably not.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Kenny is fine, he was just in an area that didn't offer him Internet service but he was able to text.

Thanks for the replies everyone.

$17.00 a bag I believe is what he was quoted.

 

[Ky hills]

Kenny asked me to post this label from a bag of minerals available in his market.

He would like to hear opinions please.

Is the copper chelated? I will not use anything that is not chelated. I spent too many years involved in bioavailability studies. You can put copper in and get the same amount of copper out if it is not in a form that bovines can move into their cells.

I have been using chelated minerals for a couple years. I do think that there is a difference for the better as opposed to non chelated minerals.

 

[kenny thomas]

Ron it is a chelated mineral.
Talltimber most of the mineral here has 560 CTC. This is special to have the 2800.
I am open to suggestions, this was a mineral recommended by VA Tech for our area and offered in bulk to our livestock association. I still have to compare it to some others.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Here you go TB.

 

[kenny thomas]

Thanks TT. I am searching for the right thing for this area. We are low in copper but good on selenium.

 

[Kingfisher]

Ron it is a chelated mineral.
Talltimber most of the mineral here has 560 CTC. This is special to have the 2800.
I am open to suggestions, this was a mineral recommended by VA Tech for our area and offered in bulk to our livestock association. I still have to compare it to some others.

Don't sound like there are many to compare. When the cows respond you'll know you chose a winner.

 

[kenny thomas]

I have tried to get extension to help me develop a mineral specifically for my area. Told them I would do soil tests, forage tests, and blood tests on the cows. Cant seem to get them interested in helping so I am trying on my own.

 

[Nesikep]

I'd look for at least 2500mg/kg copper if you know you're low on it... May not have the same bioavailability as chelated, but you can get copper sulfate pretty cheap and add a little (I think CuSO4 is about 25% copper, give or take).. So to bump it from 1500 to 2500 you need 1 gram of *copper*, or about 4 grams of copper sulfate... Put a teaspoon in per Kg, or about a half cup per 50 lb bag and you should be pretty close.. Whatever you do, MIX WELL.

 

[Nesikep]

Oh, and sulfate forms of mineral are the next best thing to chelated.. FAR better than oxides for sure..

 

[TexasBred]

Here you go TB.

Thanks TT...Yes the zinc, manganese, copper and cobalt are all chelates in amino acid form.

Kenny if it was recommended for your area I wouldn't have any hang ups about using it.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Here you go TB.

Thanks TT...Yes the zinc, manganese, copper and cobalt are all chelates in amino acid form.

Kenny if it was recommended for your area I wouldn't have any hang ups about using it.

Well there you have it Kenny. Thanks TB.