JD 466

[dun]

Anyone got one? How do you like it? Goods and bads?

Thanks

 

[jltrent]

Condition is everything on an older round baler. If it is in good condition they will bale hay. One of the first better Deere balers.

http://www.haytalk.com/forums/topic/140 ... und-baler/

 

[skyhightree1]

Anyone got one? How do you like it? Goods and bads?

Thanks

I hope that doesn't mean those big expensive noises are prompting this post.

 

[dun]

Anyone got one? How do you like it? Goods and bads?

Thanks

I hope that doesn't mean those big expensive noises are prompting this post.

You guessed it!

 

[John SD]

Anyone got one? How do you like it? Goods and bads?

Thanks

I hope that doesn't mean those big expensive noises are prompting this post.

You guessed it!

Now I'm a bit confused. :???: Can I conclude we are talking engines, not hay balers?

Not a Deere man but always heard good things about the 466. Starts much better cold, better torque, and will last longer doing the same work as compared to a 404.

Only thing I've heard is stay away from a 466NA in a 4050 because it is a fuel hog. Later 4050 models had a 359T.

To cover my bases here, I don't know a thing about a 466 baler except they must make 4x6 bales? IMO, 4' wide bales are such an oddball size. As are balers that make them tougher to come by and cost as much as standard 5x6 balers. I've heard truckers do like 4' bales because of the legal width.

You can make a small bale with a larger with a standard 5x6 baler. I make my bales 5x5 all the time. You can't make a larger bale with a small baler.

 

[dun]

So can I conclude we are talking engines, not hay balers?

Not a Deere man but always heard good things about the 466. Starts much better cold, better torque, and will last longer doing the same work as compared to a 404.

Only thing I've heard is stay away from a 466 NA in a 4050 because it is a fuel hog. Later 4050 models had a 359.

466 Baler

 

[Red Bull Breeder]

4 foot wide is much more common down here JohnSD. Way better to haul that 5 wide.

 

[dun]

4 foot wide is much more common down here JohnSD. Way better to haul that 5 wide.

Our gates are built on 2 foot square concrete posts, they were put in 90 years ago. Back then equipment wasn;t near as wide and the gates are just right at 10 foot wide. Trying to haul double width 5 foot bales is nearly impossible, with my wife driving the truck it is totally impossible. So, I can only haul 3 5 foot bales at a time, 2 cross ways and one end ways to lock the other 2 in place. With 4 footers I can haul 5 at a time, 2 double rose wnd to end and one lengthwise to lock them in. I searched all over for a 4 foot baler with net and couldn;t find one so I finally went with the 5 footer. Been wishing I hadn't ever since.

 

[John SD]

4 foot wide is much more common down here JohnSD. Way better to haul that 5 wide.

Our gates are built on 2 foot square concrete posts, they were put in 90 years ago. Back then equipment wasn;t near as wide and the gates are just right at 10 foot wide. Trying to haul double width 5 foot bales is nearly impossible, with my wife driving the truck it is totally impossible. So, I can only haul 3 5 foot bales at a time, 2 cross ways and one end ways to lock the other 2 in place. With 4 footers I can haul 5 at a time, 2 double rose wnd to end and one lengthwise to lock them in. I searched all over for a 4 foot baler with net and couldn;t find one so I finally went with the 5 footer. Been wishing I hadn't ever since.

My Lahman stackmover is 16' x33'. I haul 15 of my 5' wide bales in the base (3W x 5L) and another row of 8 bales on top (2W x 4L) I could put another 3 bales on a 3rd row but with 23 bales @ 1300 lbs each my load weighs around 29900 lbs as it is. I figure a 15 ton load behind the tractor is enough, and that's not even counting the weight of the stackmover itself.

If a picture is worth 1000 words, this is what a 3 row stack of 26 bales looks like. http://lorenzmfg.com/stack5a.jpg.

I have 2 - 12' cattle guards coming into my place. The stackmover has 4 "super single" truck tires on each side and uses the full 12' of the cattle guards. The cornerposts are another 2 ft out from the cattle guard on each side, so while I have to be pretty much square and dead center, the stack goes over with no problem.

I did this all the time for years on a 17 mile haul one way with my MF 2775. Don't think I'm going to try it with the Kubota . Kubota did just fine last year with 15 bales though. ;-)

Lahman which was based in Hecla SD is now out of business. Lahman's competitor Lorenz in Watertown SD still builds a comparable 18 ton stackmover. My neighbor has a newer 15 ton model and there are several others around the neighborhood. http://www.lorenzmfg.com/Stack.htm

Looks like the hay sled would be ideal for guys using smaller tractors with narrow gates and shorter hauls. :idea:

 

[dun]

If I was going to get something for just moving hay it wold be one of the inline trailers with an easy dump function. That way I could move the stuff myself without needing any help.

The neighbor uses his regular flafbed with the 4 ffot bales. He has a deal he rigged up so that his 3 point hooks up to his gooseneck. Hauls the trailer to the hay field and disconnects it. Uses the tractor to load it then reconnects it to the tractor. Drives to his stoarge area, unhooks the trailer and uses the tractor to unload and stack the bales. Repeats as required

 

[Limomike]

dun,
we had one of those back in 1998 or 99 I believe and used it for about 5 years. Only thing we had to do was change belts on it.

I am with you on the hay hauler. but I cant justify one unless I was custom baling. I just put 4 on the back of my flat bed dually, and 4 more on flat bed trailer, and two more with my tractor. If my math is correct, I can haul more that way than a hay hauler. But then again, its not as easy to unload as one of those. But I can unload and stack all in one movement.

 

[dun]

dun,
we had one of those back in 1998 or 99 I believe and used it for about 5 years. Only thing we had to do was change belts on it.

I am with you on the hay hauler. but I cant justify one unless I was custom baling. I just put 4 on the back of my flat bed dually, and 4 more on flat bed trailer, and two more with my tractor. If my math is correct, I can haul more that way than a hay hauler. But then again, its not as easy to unload as one of those. But I can unload and stack all in one movement.

For me the speed of the roundtrip is dictated by the speed of the tractor over rough ground. I only have one tractor that is able to handle the big bales so I have to drive it back and forth while my wife drives the truck. I can;t justify the cost of one of those trailers either, that's why I do it like I do.

 

[Cabo]

Dun, as with most machinery, care and wear are things to look for. I think you will like the 466. I had a 456 that did fine but it is not nearly the baler that a 466 is. Auto tie and of course you can make 4X5's with it if you wish. Hope you find a good one.

 

[bigbull338]

i dont care how much hay you bale and haul in a year a hay hauler is easy to justify.we bought 1 2 or 3 yrs ago.the 1st year we used it to haul 30 bales.the 2nd year we used it to haul 200 bales.so 1 more year and it has paid for its self.just like the rake we picked up this year.itll pay for its self in 1 cutting.