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skyhightree1

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I have been helping a friend build a puppy training pen for his rabbit dogs he is concreting all the poles in and I told him I mix all the concrete on my poles and he said H... NO thats too much work I mixed some concrete on 3 of my poles he did 3 his way guess what his poles were just as tight as mine. I used the regular concrete 60lb bags yellow bag and he used the red fast setting bag thats like 5 bucks a bag and yellow bags are almost 4 a bag. I will never mix any concrete on line poles just mix on corner poles just because they have the most tension on them.
 
skyhightree1":2v7seqrs said:
I have been helping a friend build a puppy training pen for his rabbit dogs he is concreting all the poles in and I told him I mix all the concrete on my poles and he said H... NO thats too much work I mixed some concrete on 3 of my poles he did 3 his way guess what his poles were just as tight as mine. I used the regular concrete 60lb bags yellow bag and he used the red fast setting bag thats like 5 bucks a bag and yellow bags are almost 4 a bag. I will never mix any concrete on line poles just mix on corner poles just because they have the most tension on them.
I set corners and H braces all last week. I use the yellow bags and I've never mixed it. Just dump it in, tamp the heck out of it and pour on water. My entire place is done that way.
 
Isomade":2h6b2pyh said:
skyhightree1":2h6b2pyh said:
I have been helping a friend build a puppy training pen for his rabbit dogs he is concreting all the poles in and I told him I mix all the concrete on my poles and he said H... NO thats too much work I mixed some concrete on 3 of my poles he did 3 his way guess what his poles were just as tight as mine. I used the regular concrete 60lb bags yellow bag and he used the red fast setting bag thats like 5 bucks a bag and yellow bags are almost 4 a bag. I will never mix any concrete on line poles just mix on corner poles just because they have the most tension on them.
I set corners and H braces all last week. I use the yellow bags and I've never mixed it. Just dump it in, tamp the heck out of it and pour on water. My entire place is done that way.

I do it about the same except pour the water in the hole first. Pour the sackrete in slow and it all gets good and wet. Around here when its dry you can pull wire the next day.
 
wow I am just kinda scared that the yellow bag may not set up like the red bag .. I have been mixing concrete for years when apparently I didn't need too.
 
They say the hole should be 3 times the size of the pole wtf ? Do yall do that? I use a 6 inch auger on my 4x4 posts and set them in order to do the no mix concrete do I really need to make the hole 3 times the size of the posts? While were putting in posts for the pen we used my 6 inch auger on 4 inch post and it seems they are tight.
 
skyhightree1":1c9z5pav said:
They say the hole should be 3 times the size of the pole wtf ? Do yall do that? I use a 6 inch auger on my 4x4 posts and set them in order to do the no mix concrete do I really need to make the hole 3 times the size of the posts? While were putting in posts for the pen we used my 6 inch auger on 4 inch post and it seems they are tight.

I just give myself enough room to get the post in line so the wires are not side loading the post when I pull them tight. If I got a few inches all the way around the post thats good enough to me.
 
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Isomade":1iawnng2 said:
skyhightree1":1iawnng2 said:
I have been helping a friend build a puppy training pen for his rabbit dogs he is concreting all the poles in and I told him I mix all the concrete on my poles and he said H... NO thats too much work I mixed some concrete on 3 of my poles he did 3 his way guess what his poles were just as tight as mine. I used the regular concrete 60lb bags yellow bag and he used the red fast setting bag thats like 5 bucks a bag and yellow bags are almost 4 a bag. I will never mix any concrete on line poles just mix on corner poles just because they have the most tension on them.
I set corners and H braces all last week. I use the yellow bags and I've never mixed it. Just dump it in, tamp the heck out of it and pour on water. My entire place is done that way.
Me too.
 
I don't use concrete on fence. I build H Brace on corners and use barn sand to pack the post. I am replacing cresote post that were set 10 years ago with concrete that are rotting of at ground level now.
 
skyhightree1":2sdddjgg said:
I have been helping a friend build a puppy training pen for his rabbit dogs he is concreting all the poles in and I told him I mix all the concrete on my poles and he said H... NO thats too much work I mixed some concrete on 3 of my poles he did 3 his way guess what his poles were just as tight as mine. I used the regular concrete 60lb bags yellow bag and he used the red fast setting bag thats like 5 bucks a bag and yellow bags are almost 4 a bag. I will never mix any concrete on line poles just mix on corner poles just because they have the most tension on them.

Ya'll be pullin your quickcrete bags too early. A full grown mature bag is 80 lbs around here and costs $3.99 a bag.
 
I fill half way up with quickcrete, add a little water, then fill to top with quickcrete. A pole abrn, I dig the hole 12 inches too deep, fill the bottom 12 inches with quickcrete I've mixed. I let it sit one day. and put post on top of it the next. It makes a good base for the post not to settle.
 
wow my pole barn i used telephone poles hole is 18 inches around and 4 feet deep filled completely with mixed concrete regular kind.
 
When I was growing up my dad would never mix it up before hand. Pour some water in followed by quikcrete then tamp and repeat. That's they way I have been doing same since I started building fences on my own.
 
The way I do it is pretty simple. I dig the hole, put the post or pole in and dump some concrete in the hole. Then the next thing I do is tamp the top of the post or pole with a sledge hammer to set it. Then I tamp the concrete and fill the rest of the hole with dirt and tamp again. The moisture in the dirt will set the concrete off. The most important thing is setting the post and tamping the dirt. K.I.S.S.
 
I only concrete my pipe that I use in the feedlot pens. I don't need to add water. By the time I get the hole dug, it usually is 1/2 full of water. I place pipe and dump the yellow bag Qucikrete around it. Mix with a broom handle and go onto the next. 12 inch hole, 4, 6, or 8 inch pipe depending on what I have. The next day weld or u- bolt guard rail on. My water table is typically 15 inches to 2 ft. Very fun in Spring
 
skyhightree1":y808mbn5 said:
wow my pole barn i used telephone poles hole is 18 inches around and 4 feet deep filled completely with mixed concrete regular kind.

Why? Telephone poles typically are 12" diameter or less.
Got a polebarn here made with them. 4 foot holes--or deeper, but zero concrete--just the same soil that came out of the hole. Been here since late 80s--withstood Hurricane Ike and Hurricane Rita before that.
It will be here and standing--long after I am gone.
There are millions of houses in the country that have no posts or footings at all--some are 1 story--some 2 or 3 story and they just rest on blocks, and many have been here longer than I have been living. Gravity is a wonderful thing and the best thing about it is--it's everywhere.
 
I have a major tendency to overbuild stuff and really not having too. My pole barn is an example lol But what i did to make sure or help make sure wind couldnt move it easily is drill holes through the poles at the bottom at an angle to create an anchor.
 
No one around my area here in NC ever uses concrete. Just tamp the he** out of the dirt you took out or tamp it back with sand. I am told that this allows the water to drain away and it doesn't keep the post moist all of the time like concrete. My grandfather worked for a local power company after WWII supplying lines to the mountains. They only tamped in sand or dirt around the poles and when he retired in 1988 they had just started replacing the poles he put in.
 

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