Hunting ethics question?

[Bigfoot]

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/fie ... nster-buck

I read this, and my first thought was that deer is somebodies property. Me personally, I'd probably have tranqed it, gorilla taped it's feet together and called the owner. Some may see it differently.

 

[Jake]

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/field-notes/teen-hunter-tags-escaped-monster-buck

I read this, and my first thought was that deer is somebodies property. Me personally, I'd probably have tranqed it, gorilla taped it's feet together and called the owner. Some may see it differently.

Wardens most likely would have shot it anyway at least that's what they claim they will do in our area if one ever got out. However we are a long ways from a high fence. Doesn't seem quite right to shoot it but guess it's not illegal either.

 

[Caustic Burno]

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/field-notes/teen-hunter-tags-escaped-monster-buck

I read this, and my first thought was that deer is somebodies property. Me personally, I'd probably have tranqed it, gorilla taped it's feet together and called the owner. Some may see it differently.

Under Texas law if he is visibly tagged or branded you just bought a deer.
Deer held under high fence are treated no different than livestock in Texas law.

 

[J&D Cattle]

I'd have shot it if it just walked up on me. Had I known about it I would have checked the law out and then my decision would have been different if I had to buy the thing. Chances of possibly finding it again to tranq might prove awful hard. I too believe our Wardens would have advised to shoot. Not certain of the law though.

Guy around here shot a heck of a fallow deer that had escaped. It was probably 15 miles away though.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Nothing I read in the article indicates he broke any Ohio game laws.

 

[Hook]

He killed it in a manner that was a lot fairer to the animal than where it was previously.

 

[Bigfoot]

Yea, but when you read the article, he says he knew where it came from, and he knew it got out. He went on to say, but that's not my fault. I just couldn't take something that wasn't mine.

 

[highgrit]

He had more than a right to shoot the deer. It was his duty as a hunter. Stillwater Trophy Outfitters needs their permits taken away. No telling what kind of disease the deer could be carrying. That one deer could of decimated the local deer herd. They feed all different kinds of feed and steroids to achieve that size antlers. I plan on writing to the Ohio DNR and express my concerns. CWD is nothing to be playing around with. I guess I see things a little bit different.

 

[HDRider]

He had more than a right to shoot the deer. It was his duty as a hunter. Stillwater Trophy Outfitters needs their permits taken away. No telling what kind of disease the deer could be carrying. That one deer could of decimated the local deer herd. They feed all different kinds of feed and steroids to achieve that size antlers. I plan on writing to the Ohio DNR and express my concerns. CWD is nothing to be playing around with. I guess I see things a little bit different.

Don't you figure quite a lot get out all over the country?

 

[Caustic Burno]

He had more than a right to shoot the deer. It was his duty as a hunter. Stillwater Trophy Outfitters needs their permits taken away. No telling what kind of disease the deer could be carrying. That one deer could of decimated the local deer herd. They feed all different kinds of feed and steroids to achieve that size antlers. I plan on writing to the Ohio DNR and express my concerns. CWD is nothing to be playing around with. I guess I see things a little bit different.

Don't you figure quite a lot get out all over the country?

Guy down here got hauled to jail do not pass go and all his deer destroyed.
Wardens caught him importing deer from somewhere in the country to put in
his high fence breeding program.
The deer were from an area known to have Chronic Wasting Disease.
Not real sure what it is or the symptoms but it didn't sound good.

 

[ga.prime]

He had more than a right to shoot the deer. It was his duty as a hunter. Stillwater Trophy Outfitters needs their permits taken away. No telling what kind of disease the deer could be carrying. That one deer could of decimated the local deer herd. They feed all different kinds of feed and steroids to achieve that size antlers. I plan on writing to the Ohio DNR and express my concerns. CWD is nothing to be playing around with. I guess I see things a little bit different.

I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[Brute 23]

http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/field-notes/teen-hunter-tags-escaped-monster-buck

I read this, and my first thought was that deer is somebodies property. Me personally, I'd probably have tranqed it, gorilla taped it's feet together and called the owner. Some may see it differently.

Under Texas law if he is visibly tagged or branded you just bought a deer.
Deer held under high fence are treated no different than livestock in Texas law.

Yup any thing with markings is considered livestock. :nod:

If its legal in his state go for it. The ranch knew it got out. If they wanted it back they would have put out a reward and tried to recapture it. They didn't.

 

[TexasBred]

He had more than a right to shoot the deer. It was his duty as a hunter. Stillwater Trophy Outfitters needs their permits taken away. No telling what kind of disease the deer could be carrying. That one deer could of decimated the local deer herd. They feed all different kinds of feed and steroids to achieve that size antlers. I plan on writing to the Ohio DNR and express my concerns. CWD is nothing to be playing around with. I guess I see things a little bit different.

Horseshyt. Those deer are treated better than your cattle ever will be. Visit one of those places sometimes , walk about and take notes. Steroids actually suppress antler growth.

 

[highgrit]

That deer looks like a exotic species to me. No one has a right to have their animals on someone else's property. TB, I've often wondered how someone was able to buy, sell, or raise wild game? The last I checked it was against the law. I will be the first to admit I know very little about raising deer. But to think that no growth hormones are being fed is not plausible in my opinion. But maybe deer farmers are different than cattle, chicken, or hog farmers. After all a deer farmer doesn't get paid by the pound.

 

[dun]

I think I would have been tempted to feed it and be willing to sell the game farm the location for lets say 10K dollars.

 

[Deepsouth]

There have been a few European red deer killed around here. Obviously they escaped from someones pen but you never hear any of the pen owners claim its their deer. And yes game and fish wants them killed. Bigfoot, we had a guy that was killing them out donate the last two he had to hope outdoors. We carried a couple of boys over and killed them. He had to have the state animal health department inspect them and take brain tissue samples before he could move them from his place. That may be the reason that none of the pen owners ever admit to them getting out.

 

[TexasBred]

That deer looks like a exotic species to me. No one has a right to have their animals on someone else's property. TB, I've often wondered how someone was able to buy, sell, or raise wild game? The last I checked it was against the law. I will be the first to admit I know very little about raising deer. But to think that no growth hormones are being fed is not plausible in my opinion. But maybe deer farmers are different than cattle, chicken, or hog farmers. After all a deer farmer doesn't get paid by the pound.

HG these aren't wild game. They are farm raised and sold between ranches. Anything coming in from out of state has to have the same vaccinations, tests and paperwork that cattle have. Growth hormones do adversely affect horn growth. Protein and phosphorus and genetics give the big horn growth.WE have probably 200 high fence operations around here along with a number of what they now call "scientific breeders" where they are simply raised in small paddocks and fed high quality alfalfa and high protein deer pellets along with deer mineral. Bucks are collected, does are flushed and the market for semen and embryos is hot. It's a big business "for now". I'm afraid for these "scientific breeders" it will most likely end up like the emu/ostrich business eventually and we'll see many of these deer turned loose into the wild deer population. BTW it's not uncommon for them to escape either. Although most of whitetail only some have a large variety of exotics. Not unusual at all to see a fallow deer, axis deer, red stag or some of the exotic sheep romaing free. Had a red stag at my back fence two years ago. Big son of a gun. All of these are "Fair Game" year round. A friend swears a kangaroo came bouncing through the woods on day when he was on the deer stand but I must tell you he has a tendency to drink while hunting. :lol2: :lol2:

 

[TexasBred]

Highgrit I think I've posted this before but shows what happens when some of these "big boys" think they are above the law:
http://www.thecherokeean.com/news/2011- ... ml?print=1

 

[dieselbeef]

hmm..if he didnt shoot it someone else wouldve. just he got famous for it. lotta guys wouldve just ate it...

 

[Bigfoot]

It's a dilema, I'll never face, but his comments seemed like he knew who's it was, and where it belonged.