How about a commercial heifer show string thread

[showmomof2]

We raised both of these heifers, they are not out of any show stock, but feel they are structerally pretty good. County and district fair is the end of September. My son showed the white one this spring and she was very green. I posted a picture of her at that time. I think she is coming along well.

The black baldie is out of the first heifer my daughter showed (another one we raised). This is the one we didn't even know was coming. We had taken her and another heifer out to my husbands sister's place to breed to their angus bull last June. We weren't expecting a calf at all from her and hadn't noticed her springing at all. Then on Oct 1 my daughter and I were out in the pasture and there she was with this calf. Talk about surprised! Anyway, we just weaned her and are fixing to start breaking her. Do you think her coloring will hurt her?

 

[KNERSIE]

Do you think her coloring will hurt her?

She has bigger problems than colouring.

 

[iowahawkeyes]

I think they are just commercial cattle. I probably wouldn't show them myself. The white one is fat enough but she has no hair, is really fine boned, and her rear leg set doesn't look right. The shorthorn cross heifer is also too fine boned and doesn't have the hair to compete, but she would be in the oddball age group so there probably wouldn't be much competition.

 

[farmwife]

I think they are just commercial cattle. I probably wouldn't show them myself. The white one is fat enough but she has no hair, is really fine boned, and her rear leg set doesn't look right. The shorthorn cross heifer is also too fine boned and doesn't have the hair to compete, but she would be in the oddball age group so there probably wouldn't be much competition.

Arkansas Commercial heifers show according to weight much like a steer class.

 

[K2011]

The black heifer seems to be very feminie...NORMALLY/sometimes a first calf heifer doesn't have the greatest of calves until the second or even third calf...do her back legs look sickle-hocked to anyone??? I like the white one more but she looks a toed out.....or atlest on her right front leg

 

[iowahawkeyes]

I think they are just commercial cattle. I probably wouldn't show them myself. The white one is fat enough but she has no hair, is really fine boned, and her rear leg set doesn't look right. The shorthorn cross heifer is also too fine boned and doesn't have the hair to compete, but she would be in the oddball age group so there probably wouldn't be much competition.

Arkansas Commercial heifers show according to weight much like a steer class.

I mean commercial as in nothing special and feedlot or commercial cow herd worthy. Definitely nothing to build a herd around. In Iowa commercial show heifers show by weight also.

 

[farmwife]

I think they are just commercial cattle. I probably wouldn't show them myself. The white one is fat enough but she has no hair, is really fine boned, and her rear leg set doesn't look right. The shorthorn cross heifer is also too fine boned and doesn't have the hair to compete, but she would be in the oddball age group so there probably wouldn't be much competition.

Arkansas Commercial heifers show according to weight much like a steer class.

I mean commercial as in nothing special and feedlot or commercial cow herd worthy. Definitely nothing to build a herd around. In Iowa commercial show heifers show by weight also.

I agree with you points on their quality, but why would the SH cross be in an oddball age group.

 

[iowahawkeyes]

I agree with you points on their quality, but why would the SH cross be in an oddball age group.

I guess it depends on your region. Up here there are very, very few fall calves born, therefore she would probably be the only one in her age bracket.

 

[farmwife]

I agree with you points on their quality, but why would the SH cross be in an oddball age group.

I guess it depends on your region. Up here there are very, very few fall calves born, therefore she would probably be the only one in her age bracket.

Age doesn't matter -- they show by weight classes.

In breed classes, down here the Sept/Oct group is usually tough.

 

[showmomof2]

Thanks for your replies, although not what I was hoping for. The pictures aren't the greatest and their legsets aren't bad-it's the photographer! We had just weaned the baldie that night and getting them to be still, let alone catching them standing right, wasn't the easiest thing to do. I didn't think they were to bad, considering they weren't bred to show. They aren't out of any show sires-they are out of just plain cows. Our county fair is not huge-20 head of cattle at the best. They won't be competing in the big shows with these 2 calves, so we feel that they are what they are and will fit back into the commercial herd as mamas when they are done. My daughter is the sentimental one, and when the baldie was born she said she would show her no matter what. Did I say she was stubborn, too? We weren't expecting much out of this calf, so she has pleasently surprised us. We have also moved over the winter and we were just starting to get started with the 4-H and FFA shows when we moved. We are having to reorganize and reset up things, and rebuilding fence so we haven't done much hair care. We are planning on starting halter breaking the baldie and 2 herefords next week, and then all the washing, brushing and hair training will begin. We are also trying to get the fans situated. Neither will have an abundance of hair. The white heifer has some brahma in her background, but she had a pretty decent coat before she shed out. Also, as far as I know, there is no shorthorn in the baldie. She is out of the neighbors hereford bull. If there is shorthorn in there it has to go back a couple of generations!

 

[K2011]

.....can you try to get more pics of them....standing good

 

[Chris H]

The white one looks like she should be a productive commercial cow; she's gotten a lot stouter since this spring when you posted her picture. I can't get a good idea of how big the baldie is, in the picture she looks a bit too fine boned. But she obviously has a productive mother, and that's worth keeping her around and seeing how she develops.

How are the Herfs doing?

 

[showmomof2]

The white one is really filling out and I am looking forward to keeping her as a cow. As mentioned, she does toe out some, but am hoping we can correct that to some extent with some trimming. Both she and the baldie are from productive cows that we have had around for along time so I am not to worried about their performance. And if the kids have fun with them in the meantime, that's great. The baldie is not alot smaller than the white one and I am confident she will be a good mama as well. Her grandma and great grandma have been on the farm for years, and we still have grandma. We had to sell the older one when we sold our old place, but she is still going strong at a friends house. The herefords are doing great. I am anxious to see how they do at the fairs this fall.

 

[Chris H]

The white one is really filling out and I am looking forward to keeping her as a cow. As mentioned, she does toe out some, but am hoping we can correct that to some extent with some trimming. Both she and the baldie are from productive cows that we have had around for along time so I am not to worried about their performance. And if the kids have fun with them in the meantime, that's great. The baldie is not alot smaller than the white one and I am confident she will be a good mama as well. Her grandma and great grandma have been on the farm for years, and we still have grandma. We had to sell the older one when we sold our old place, but she is still going strong at a friends house. The herefords are doing great. I am anxious to see how they do at the fairs this fall.

There's a lot that can be learned about breeding, using commercial cows and selecting a good bull to complement them. The kids can learn about the feeding and care of a commercial cow at a lower investment in the animal, and those lessons apply to all breeds. Having fun is the icing on the cake.

Get some updated pics of your Herfs on the Hereford thread!

 

[showmomof2]

We already have a bull picked out for the white heifer. Some friends of ours has an Ali son that will add bone to the calves. They raise club calves and they liked the potential in this one.They will have their first calf out of him this fall, and my daughter's simangus is bred to him. I will get the hereford pictures soon. If you haven't seen our newest ones, one was posted on down the page, and another was in the sales forum in the Thompson sale thread.