Holden Herefords

[Oldtimer]

Rainy day in northeast MT again today, so I've been watching the Holden Hereford female sale...
Looking at the prices they are getting would make you believe they are the last herefords left on earth :shock: ;-) :P
Must still be some moldy money lying around...

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Rainy day in northeast MT again today, so I've been watching the Holden Hereford female sale...
Looking at the prices they are getting would make you believe they are the last herefords left on earth :shock: ;-) :P
Must still be some moldy money lying around...

reckon how much money actually changes hands,, some of these sales just seem to be a continuous cycle... like we have a special guest in the crowd today folks aka ""volume buyer""" every body applaud.... then the seller is a special guest at the next sale :cowboy:

 

[Oldtimer]

Rainy day in northeast MT again today, so I've been watching the Holden Hereford female sale...
Looking at the prices they are getting would make you believe they are the last herefords left on earth :shock: ;-) :P
Must still be some moldy money lying around...

reckon how much money actually changes hands,, some of these sales just seem to be a continuous cycle... like we have a special guest in the crowd today folks aka ""volume buyer""" every body applaud.... then the seller is a special guest at the next sale :cowboy:

You mean that isn't just an "Angus Mafia" modus operandi :???: ;-) :P :lol2:

Must have been a lot of "special guests" from Texas-- or a lot of moldy money laying around down there.... ;-)

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Rainy day in northeast MT again today, so I've been watching the Holden Hereford female sale...
Looking at the prices they are getting would make you believe they are the last herefords left on earth :shock: ;-) :P
Must still be some moldy money lying around...

reckon how much money actually changes hands,, some of these sales just seem to be a continuous cycle... like we have a special guest in the crowd today folks aka ""volume buyer""" every body applaud.... then the seller is a special guest at the next sale :cowboy:

You mean that isn't just an "Angus Mafia" modus operandi :???: ;-) :P :lol2:

Must have been a lot of "special guests" from Texas-- or a lot of moldy money laying around down there.... ;-)

mold wont grow on oily money :cowboy:

 

[quackingduck]

At the Fort Keogh sale a couple of years ago they were, to Fort Keogh's credit, selling 2's that didn't rebreed. Holdens paid a lot of money for one of those. I guess Holdens must think they have the forage to support her genetic requirements. I didn't think it was very good advertising.

 

[Hereford76]

At the Fort Keogh sale a couple of years ago they were, to Fort Keogh's credit, selling 2's that didn't rebreed. Holdens paid a lot of money for one of those. I guess Holdens must think they have the forage to support her genetic requirements. I didn't think it was very good advertising.

Hey quack - what did you think of the pen of miles city bulls on display last weekend... why did they take down the numbers sheet on those bulls so fast? Oh well - nice to visit with you... better go spend your bull bucks.

 

[quackingduck]

76. I didn't see the stats on the Miles bulls. Maybe the wind blew them down? I thought they looked OK but I didn't realy spend much time on them. Those weren't the cattle I went to see. Nice event. What does the future hold for the 137y calf you had at Miles City?

 

[VCC]

Corn and Oil Money is still fresh and plenty of it for them to spend.

 

[WichitaLineMan]

Bakken money?

 

[regenwether]

As someone who likes Herefords but is green as grass to bloodlines let me ask you a question. How does Holden's cattle differ to Lent's? Would they make a good cross??

 

[WichitaLineMan]

I am at a loss at how one would even begin to respond to that one!

 

[Hereford76]

76. I didn't see the stats on the Miles bulls. Maybe the wind blew them down? I thought they looked OK but I didn't realy spend much time on them. Those weren't the cattle I went to see. Nice event. What does the future hold for the 137y calf you had at Miles City?

what were the cattle you went to see?

my plans with that calf are to wean him early, stuff the living daylights out of him with corn, barley, etc. spend 5 or 6 thousand promoting him, hire a professional photographer, fitter, etc. drag him around the country and show him and tell everyone they can't live without him and see how i come out. i won't be able to do it as good as the pro's and the big difference will be he wasn't choking on grain with his first breath of air coming thru the canal, his mother isn't a donor cow that only raised one calf, his sire wasn't an AI bull that died at the age of 2 1/2 in stud as his first calves were born, and i still have his mother, grandmother, and great grandmother producing - so i think the odds are against me.

 

[ALACOWMAN]

76. I didn't see the stats on the Miles bulls. Maybe the wind blew them down? I thought they looked OK but I didn't realy spend much time on them. Those weren't the cattle I went to see. Nice event. What does the future hold for the 137y calf you had at Miles City?

what were the cattle you went to see?

my plans with that calf are to wean him early, stuff the living daylights out of him with corn, barley, etc. spend 5 or 6 thousand promoting him, hire a professional photographer, fitter, etc. drag him around the country and show him and tell everyone they can't live without him and see how i come out. i won't be able to do it as good as the pro's and the big difference will be he wasn't choking on grain with his first breath of air coming thru the canal, his mother isn't a donor cow that only raised one calf, his sire wasn't an AI bull that died at the age of 2 1/2 in stud as his first calves were born, and i still have his mother, grandmother, and great grandmother producing - so i think the odds are against me.

:lol2:

 

[quackingduck]

76. Went to see yours and Sparks.

Doesn't sound like your calf stands a chance.

 

[Northern Rancher]

I have an idea where he could go.

 

[Herefords.US]

As someone who likes Herefords but is green as grass to bloodlines let me ask you a question. How does Holden's cattle differ to Lent's? Would they make a good cross??

Holden bred bulls will be 300-400 lbs. larger at weaning, 500-600 lbs. larger at yearling, and up to 1000 lbs. larger at maturity. It's hard to even compare the two herds. It'd be next to impossible to predict what you'd get from the cross and how they'd perform.

George

 

[regenwether]

What is Holden's cow's wt. ave?

 

[Herefords.US]

What is Holden's cow's wt. ave?

I haven't seen the entire Holden herd. Ned Jr. could give you a better answer here. But the fully mature Holden bred cows that I've seen at other places, like Shafers, would weigh around 1600 lb.

George

 

[Brandonm22]

As someone who likes Herefords but is green as grass to bloodlines let me ask you a question. How does Holden's cattle differ to Lent's? Would they make a good cross??

I like the concept of outcrossing two linebred lines; but in that example I would be worried that there would be too much genetic and phenotypic diversity in the resulting "F1" generation for it to be really useful as purebred cattle. Now that cross, crossed back to a good Angus probably wouldn't be a bad commercial cow.

 

[KNERSIE]

As someone who likes Herefords but is green as grass to bloodlines let me ask you a question. How does Holden's cattle differ to Lent's? Would they make a good cross??

Typically breeding two extremes seldom yield the average of the two.