KMacGinley
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What do you guys think of the Hoff cattle?
Hoff Scotchcap angus
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KMacGinley
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Chi crosses?
Pay no attention to mtnman. He has no idea of what he's talking about.KMacGinley":2guvf69c said:
The Hoff Scotch Cap cattle are about as good of Angus as you can find. They have size, thickness, length, depth, good feet and legs. Really hard to fault them. Their females are real feminine broody mama cows and excellent milkers.
If you need to add size to your cattle and maintain high quality you can't go wrong buying from Doug and Molly Hoff.
Back to the topic, I think they are a very respected performance Angus program. The cattle tend to be a little large for my preference, but good all the same. I saw Hoff Banker at the NWSS a couple years ago, full of meat and one of the best herd sire displays in Denver!
They always have a whale of a sale. They do have larger than most Angus cattle but that is ok. Their are people out there that like tons of performance, bone, and meat. You get east of them, people tend to like bigger frames. They work well for them and the feeders love their cattle. Not going to get any yield grade 4s in their program.
KMacGinley
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I have used them and they are good heavy muscled high volumed heavy boned cattle. The females milk very well, not like the chianinas I am familiar with.
It's only the Angus breeders that take serious offense. That should tell you something about the stability of their foundations. Not much there, but got to keep blowing and going to make sure they keep the wool pulled over everybodies eyes.
The Hoff cattle are good, and they are big. I would guess that they average over 1600 as mature cows.
Average, not one or two, average.
They are bigger on the average than any purebred herd of any breed. Why are their EPD so much lower? And how do they keep those low BW with all that size?
If you think they are a little big, or add a little size, then it sounds like you already have pretty big cows.
Too bad you are falling in with this crowd BRG.
mtnman
The Hoff cattle are good, and they are big. I would guess that they average over 1600 as mature cows.
Average, not one or two, average.
They are bigger on the average than any purebred herd of any breed. Why are their EPD so much lower? And how do they keep those low BW with all that size?
If you think they are a little big, or add a little size, then it sounds like you already have pretty big cows.
Too bad you are falling in with this crowd BRG.
mtnman
Jake
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Hoff cattle are good cattle. Yes there are bulls that have been controversial but you won't find better people than Doug and Molly. I have done business with them and done some work with them, truely genuine individuals. Not many big time breeders such as themselves have time to sit and talk to an annoying ole kid. The cattle will add growth to about anything and are solid critters.
la4angus":280b3u9a said:
I need to have both an excellent herd and real extended success in this business before I could feel comfortable enough with myself to start throwing stones at somebody like Doug Hoff. I don't want to pile on poor Mntman; but it might be more effective for him to impress us with his cattle and his accomplishments rather than just constantly throwing around old allegations.
I have never met them. But everything I hear is nothing but good. I guesse when you are on top, those that don't get it mock what they don't understand. Not just for MTMAN, myself included, be prepaird to back up your smack talk with something other than " an Angus breeder told me so." What kind of crap is that. :mad:
Scotty
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