Amazing what is classified as a medial device in obamacare
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p510/ch05.html
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p510/ch05.html
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Caustic Burno
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dun":2r6jdb5j said:
Thanks I was having a good day now all I can think of is cussing that sorry POS that is POTUS
along with every shyt eating egg sucking congressman and senator that voted yes.
I didn't use dog as I think more highly of them.
That's very odd
Why would they target fishing and archery of all things ?
Why not designer clothing or shoes ?
I would think it would produce greater revenue.
Lots of crazy stuff in the world.
Are people high or dopped when they come up with this
The following discussion of manufacturers taxes applies to the tax on:
Sport fishing equipment;
Fishing rods and fishing poles;
Electric outboard motors;
Fishing tackle boxes;
Bows, quivers, broadheads, and points;
Arrow shafts;
Coal;
Taxable tires;
Gas guzzler automobiles; and
Why would they target fishing and archery of all things ?
Why not designer clothing or shoes ?
I would think it would produce greater revenue.
Lots of crazy stuff in the world.
Are people high or dopped when they come up with this
The following discussion of manufacturers taxes applies to the tax on:
Sport fishing equipment;
Fishing rods and fishing poles;
Electric outboard motors;
Fishing tackle boxes;
Bows, quivers, broadheads, and points;
Arrow shafts;
Coal;
Taxable tires;
Gas guzzler automobiles; and
TexasBred
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It's not about income.It's about control !!!!
Workinonit Farm
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dun":jsfo14an said:
I'm afraid if I start running my mouth, I'll get the thread locked.
Trust me, my opinions and 'feelings' on all this are the same as yours and Caustic's. 2 days ago me and one of my brothers were having a conversation about all of these things, I'm surprised our phone lines didn't melt due to all the heat from the anger and frustration.
Commercialfarmer
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They going to have rangers sitting in the bushes arresting people for tax evasion that dig their own worms?
I'm past outraged dun. Paid into a high end insurance since my 20's because I knew one day I'd need it. Well, that day is here and I don't have anything to show for the thousands and thousands extra I spent except for a deductible that is astronomical and an out of pocket bill even higher after my policy was canceled. I'm tired, very tired from killing myself to pay hospital bills and dr bills that would of been very minimal before- because I paid the piper already.
I think I understand the feeling of the Bostonians when they had their tea party.
I'm past outraged dun. Paid into a high end insurance since my 20's because I knew one day I'd need it. Well, that day is here and I don't have anything to show for the thousands and thousands extra I spent except for a deductible that is astronomical and an out of pocket bill even higher after my policy was canceled. I'm tired, very tired from killing myself to pay hospital bills and dr bills that would of been very minimal before- because I paid the piper already.
I think I understand the feeling of the Bostonians when they had their tea party.
Commercialfarmer
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Yes .
John SD
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Workinonit Farm":9qcpe73h said:
Same here. I've come to the conclusion that I must pick my online battles carefully, especially here. There are other sites to discuss topics like this where the subject is not likely to get locked or disappear.
TexasBred
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Commercialfarmer":c0f08ygy said:
CF I think most all of us that have been fortunate enough to have had good health all our lives paid tens of thousands for health insurance that we never used (Thank God) but it was our choice and I'd think you'd look back and see that as a blessing. The alternative would have been to be sickly most of your life and still been left with deductibles and out of pocket expenses.
John SD
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TexasBred":3egu6zpv said:
:nod: The tens of thousands I've spent on health insurance over the years pales in comparison to what my doctor bills, hospital procedures, surgeries and clinic visits have cost over the years. I wouod have been bankrupt long ago without it
Seemed the cost of my insurance was getting out of hand @ $1500 month. I went in and the independent agent went over 10-12 different options for me. TMI at one time, but one plan impressed me. I stayed with Blue Cross because except for cost I really have no complaints how they have treated me over the years. I now pay $900/month for a plan with basically a $2000 deductible. I will pay all my bills up to the $2000, and insurance takes over from there.
My former plan was a $500 deductible that I usually met by April each year with routine stuff. After that I paid 20% of up to $5K which usually happened in Sept with routine stuff. The former plan then took over from that until the end of the year.
I will need my 3rd pacemaker within a year. My heart surgery when they installed the original pacer back in 2003 was over $100K. The replacement of the original pacemaker was a simple outpatient operation that cost $25K. Replacement of the wiring is involved this time around which is difficult in my case and will require hospitalization. I'm not worth what it takes to keep me going :roll:
True Grit Farms
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You are to some of us John.
hurleyjd
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dun":3owtdyq4 said:
Open the link posted and scroll down and select medical devices and you will find that you will also have to doing some more searching through the links to find out what medical devices are taxed. Fishing poles are not a medical device as several more items in the list.
Commercialfarmer
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TexasBred":3tx4ee2t said:
TB, I'm not saying that insurance is a bad thing at all. The basis of medical insurance is a good thing. I don't agree with the business practices of how some operated, especially HMO's.
The best thing that could have happened to insurance would have been to allow them to compete across state lines. What we have now is a mess and will only get worse.
What I was trying to say is that when I was young, I could have purchased blue cross and blue shield and matter of fact, I had it for a period between 18-22. It was cheap. It covered anything major that would have occurred to me, except a pre-existing injury to my knee.
However, when given the opportunity to purchase a plan that I could take with me for the rest of my life, with no pre-existing conditions, no denials of coverage, no need for referal to specialists and when it came time to pay, they paid- I purchased that plan. It was about twice what blue cross and blue shield cost me at that time. The pay out wasn't in the immediate, it was going to be when I was older. Cancer was a guarantee, I knew that.
I was happy to make a contract between myself and the Trust/Insurer that I would pay X dollars a month, and they would provide X service and coverage if I were to get sick. Again being that X was about twice what Y for Blue cross and Blue shields would have been.
Now fast forward and when I reached 38, the United States government decided that the agreement between myself and my insurer was no longer a valid agreement making it null and void without either them or myself making such a claim or desire to stop doing business.
I had an agreement with the trust/insurer that I would be able to choose my doctors, I would have access to any specialist I wanted, they were going to pay for the services I needed when I needed them without excessive out of pocket costs by myself- because they had been investing heavily on the high premiums I had paid over the previous 16 to 17 years. Fast forward a few years and when I need to cash in using this coverage, it no longer exists. The benefits I paid extra for, no longer exist. That policy was terminated because the federal government said so.
Had I just paid blue cross and blue shield all these years, I would be in the same boat I am in now. And even then, blue cross and blue shields 4 years ago, would have been a better deal that what it is today.
So what I'm more than angry about, is that I paid a premium when it was tough to do so, for a service/coverage I didn't get to use when I needed it. Had I known that the rule of law was going to be turned on its head when I was younger, I would have saved my money as a young lad and had it to spend now. But as it is, all that money is gone and so is what it purchased.
hurleyjd
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Could be the tax on a gallon of fuel is highest hidden tax we pay. At 4 dollars a gallon it is 9.58 percent. And when we are paying 1.57 a gallon as the price is around here the tax 29 percent of the price. The tax here both fed. and state is .35 cents a gallon.
gimpyrancher
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All I can say is: Feel the Bern or feel more burn! Your choice.
TexasBred
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F lick the Bern. We can't survive another socialist.
Caustic Burno
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TexasBred":3s9lz80h said:
Same original ticket Adolf Hitler ran on, that worked out well for the German people.
The first paragraph describes the bern.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
gimpyrancher
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Caustic Burno":38qnf91v said:
Just want to remind you that almost every single convicted criminal (Including pedifiles and rapists) has been either a Repub or a Democrat. Is that a valid reason to call all Repubs and Democrats worse or equal to Hitler? Maybe we should call all White Americans KKK members? The two comments are similar.
You need a better source of education than Fox so-called News.
Bernie is not a Socialist. He is a Democratic Socialist. But I can totally understand you don't know the future. Fox so-called News hasn't bothered to share the definition with your party.
Perhaps the problem isn't a deficiency on my part.
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