Hereford bull

[Aaron]

New bull for you guys to take apart. :cowboy:

 

[greenwillowhereford II]

Hard to make much of a judgement call on him in that pic. I don't dislike him.

 

[JHH]

He isn't standing very good to really judge him to much. He is a long devil though. But I would like to see him have a deeper body and some more muscle in the rear. Not a bad bull and should do a good job for you. JHH

 

[CPL]

I'd like to see a little more of him in his loin and his rear quarter. I'd guess he's not very wide either. He does have good length and body, his one eye looks to have good pigment too. It might be the angle of the picture, but he could have a larger crest. How old is he? I think he could do alright, but I'd watch the cows he's breed to.

 

[Aaron]

Has 100% pigment on both eyes and scrotum.
Exactly 16 months as of yesterday.
Not using him, I raised him and planned to sell him as 2 year old bull next spring, but am looking to sell in November as long yearling breeding bull in a local production sale I am setting up.
Bloody hard to get a decent picture of him, but I figured this was the best for the sale catalog as it shows his length.

 

[oakcreekfarms]

The picture isn't that good to judge off of, but he seems to really lack rear end

 

[farmwife]

I'm just not seeing the length y'all are talking about. When his near leg is pulled up more square, he will certainly not be what I would call long bodied. Of course he's not what I would consider short bodied either; he's average. I would like to see more length in the front quarter as well with greater expression of muscle throughout. He's rather wasty in his front end as well. He's not poor quality, just lacking in some areas.

 

[rocket2222]

If you are half way decent with a camera and willing to spend a little time with the animal you are taking the photo of, you can make a half way decent animal look pretty darn good, its why breeders pay someone [pro photographers] to come take their sale catalog photos for them. They want them to look their best or better than they really are. It will draw some potential buyers to the sale. Generally the more folks attend, the better the sale is, so getting people to come to it, is half the battle. I sell mostly off the farm, so I think its a little different, If I post pics of a animal that's for sale, and I make that animal look way better in the pic than it really is, when the potential buyer sees the animal in person, they are disappointed, they are more inclined to just leave, and never come back. At a auction most people will stay, see how much that animal sells for, maybe it will go cheaper than they thought, and bid on it or buy it anyway. I try to choose pics that are as close to representing the animal as I can, I don't want them to look bad, but I don't want the pictures to make them look a lot better than they are, but if I were to hold a sale, I would choose the pictures that make them look their best to draw people to it. So what does all the crap I just wrote mean :) Well it looks like you took that pic as you drove through the field in your truck, it wouldn't entice me to come to the sale, or your farm to look at him. For a sale catalog you need the best pictures possible, put a little effort in it.

 

[DOC HARRIS]

If you are half way decent with a camera and willing to spend a little time with the animal you are taking the photo of, you can make a half way decent animal look pretty darn good, its why breeders pay someone [pro photographers] to come take their sale catalog photos for them. They want them to look their best or better than they really are. It will draw some potential buyers to the sale. Generally the more folks attend, the better the sale is, so getting people to come to it, is half the battle. I sell mostly off the farm, so I think its a little different, If I post pics of a animal that's for sale, and I make that animal look way better in the pic than it really is, when the potential buyer sees the animal in person, they are disappointed, they are more inclined to just leave, and never come back. At a auction most people will stay, see how much that animal sells for, maybe it will go cheaper than they thought, and bid on it or buy it anyway. I try to choose pics that are as close to representing the animal as I can, I don't want them to look bad, but I don't want the pictures to make them look a lot better than they are, but if I were to hold a sale, I would choose the pictures that make them look their best to draw people to it. So what does all the crap I just wrote mean :) Well it looks like you took that pic as you drove through the field in your truck, it wouldn't entice me to come to the sale, or your farm to look at him. For a sale catalog you need the best pictures possible, put a little effort in it.

rocket2222-

Right ON! What you just wrote is not crap! Your perception of pictures, salesmanship, and reality is absolutely correct.

...and the picture of this bull is not good enough to justify placing in a catalog! His right hind leg cannot be seen, his scrotum is obscured by the tall weeds, his bone structure is obscured, and to some observers, it may seem that you are attempting to hide something about the bull.

Get a MUCH better picture of the bull, taken at right angles to the camera, and reveal the entire animal, not hide part of him! A professional appearing picture will relate to a professionally prepared sale experience. Don't let DETAILS ruin a good sale day! It will cost you money.

DOC HARRIS

 

[Aaron]

Here is another pic. Not for the catalog, but something a little different for everyone.

 

[farmwife]

Much better pic. If his head were up, it would be an excellent pic for a catalog.

Also, just as I suspected, he's just not as long as he appeared in the first pic. Decent bull. Good luck with him.