Heavy Duty gate...how to hang it question

[saltbranch]

I have a gate entry that is 18' wide and I have telephone poles that are 20" in diameter on each side. These posts are set 5' deep in the ground. Currently I have cheap tube gates and lag hinges screwed into post. I plan on building gates out of 2" square tube, nothing fancy I just want to beef up the entrance and make more secure. What would be the best way to hang the gate on the telephone pole post? Are bits made 20"s plus? I was thinking weld studs to 5' of 6" channel. Bolt the 5' piece of channel vertically to post to give an area I can weld hinges too. I would weld nuts on studs that go through post too....Any ideas?

 

[M-5]

Yes bits are made long enough . you will have to modify the bolt thru hangers to be long enough. I have notched the back side of telephone post before to use standard hangers

 

[littletom]

If you are still worried about swag what some do here and call a dead man. Is dig a small trench on inside and fill with cement so they have something to push against. I would still want them braced the other way. Yes they make them that long or you can get extensions for paddle bits. 3 each all the way through.

 

[dun]

If you are still worried about swag what some do here and call a dead man. Is dig a small trench on inside and fill with cement so they have something to push against. I would still want them braced the other way. Yes they make them that long or you can get extensions for paddle bits. 3 each all the way through.

I got one of those extensions a couple of years ago, it's 18' long

 

[fenceman]

I have a gate entry that is 18' wide and I have telephone poles that are 20" in diameter on each side. These posts are set 5' deep in the ground. Currently I have cheap tube gates and lag hinges screwed into post. I plan on building gates out of 2" square tube, nothing fancy I just want to beef up the entrance and make more secure. What would be the best way to hang the gate on the telephone pole post? Are bits made 20"s plus? I was thinking weld studs to 5' of 6" channel. Bolt the 5' piece of channel vertically to post to give an area I can weld hinges too. I would weld nuts on studs that go through post too....Any ideas?

You can get a bit with extension to drill through. If you're putting in double gates . your not going to be to heavy to have any worries. If your going you span it with single gate try to incorporate some diagonal bracing into your design and use some heavy duty ballbearing greasable hinges.http://steel.kingmetals.com/decor/Hinges

The 7 inch steel block hinge is rated to 800 lbs. I've took them well past that.

 

[hillbilly beef man]

They make bits that long. How do you think that the telephone an power co gets their holes in the poles?

 

[M.Magis]

I’ve used an extension for drilling through a large locust post because it was cheaper than the long bit, but I’d suggest spending the money on the long bit. Telephone pole aren’t going to be nearly as hard to drill as the locust, but the extension kept wanting to slip on me. I made it, but had that extension slipped when I was half way though I’d have been SOL. The long bits I’m referring to are the auger bits, not the spade/paddle bits. I wouldn’t want to drill through a 20” post with a spade bit.

 

[saltbranch]

They make bits that long. How do you think that the telephone an power co gets their holes in the poles?

I do not work in the telephone or power co. business, therefore I do not know what my options are for drilling through the pole. I figured there were options to do the job, hence my question.

 

[hurleyjd]

I have a gate entry that is 18' wide and I have telephone poles that are 20" in diameter on each side. These posts are set 5' deep in the ground. Currently I have cheap tube gates and lag hinges screwed into post. I plan on building gates out of 2" square tube, nothing fancy I just want to beef up the entrance and make more secure. What would be the best way to hang the gate on the telephone pole post? Are bits made 20"s plus? I was thinking weld studs to 5' of 6" channel. Bolt the 5' piece of channel vertically to post to give an area I can weld hinges too. I would weld nuts on studs that go through post too....Any ideas?

That is some large poles what did you drill the holes in the ground with. Hole would need to be at least 36 inches in dia.

 

[hurleyjd]

I have a gate entry that is 18' wide and I have telephone poles that are 20" in diameter on each side. These posts are set 5' deep in the ground. Currently I have cheap tube gates and lag hinges screwed into post. I plan on building gates out of 2" square tube, nothing fancy I just want to beef up the entrance and make more secure. What would be the best way to hang the gate on the telephone pole post? Are bits made 20"s plus? I was thinking weld studs to 5' of 6" channel. Bolt the 5' piece of channel vertically to post to give an area I can weld hinges too. I would weld nuts on studs that go through post too....Any ideas?

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[saltbranch]

I have a gate entry that is 18' wide and I have telephone poles that are 20" in diameter on each side. These posts are set 5' deep in the ground. Currently I have cheap tube gates and lag hinges screwed into post. I plan on building gates out of 2" square tube, nothing fancy I just want to beef up the entrance and make more secure. What would be the best way to hang the gate on the telephone pole post? Are bits made 20"s plus? I was thinking weld studs to 5' of 6" channel. Bolt the 5' piece of channel vertically to post to give an area I can weld hinges too. I would weld nuts on studs that go through post too....Any ideas?

That is some large poles what did you drill the holes in the ground with. Hole would need to be at least 36 inches in dia.

A friend has "big" auger bit that he uses on a Danuser PTO post hole digger and an extension. I do not know the diameter of the auger, but it is big. I paid him to drill the holes for me.

 

[bbirder]

Have you considered a wheel on the end of the gate, or if your posts are long enough you can run a cable from top of post to end of gate to help support the weight.

 

[M-5]

I have a gate entry that is 18' wide and I have telephone poles that are 20" in diameter on each side. These posts are set 5' deep in the ground. Currently I have cheap tube gates and lag hinges screwed into post. I plan on building gates out of 2" square tube, nothing fancy I just want to beef up the entrance and make more secure. What would be the best way to hang the gate on the telephone pole post? Are bits made 20"s plus? I was thinking weld studs to 5' of 6" channel. Bolt the 5' piece of channel vertically to post to give an area I can weld hinges too. I would weld nuts on studs that go through post too....Any ideas?

That is some large poles what did you drill the holes in the ground with. Hole would need to be at least 36 inches in dia.

A friend has "big" auger bit that he uses on a Danuser PTO post hole digger and an extension. I do not know the diameter of the auger, but it is big. I paid him to drill the holes for me.

Hes not referring to the hole in the ground . He wants an auger bit to drill thru the post

 

[Craig Miller]

We had some long bits when I was doing cable and telephone work. They were flexibli for drilling into floors from 4 ft up on the wall. They were about $100 ten years ago. They make shorter ones too. I think it would work if you take you time and dont rush the bit it should drill a straight hole. They should have them at Lowes/Home Depot/Ace.

 

[M-5]

You can get a decent set of 10" auger bits at harbor freight. They do real good if you don't over heat it and they resharp pretty easy

 

[fenceman]

Have you considered a wheel on the end of the gate, or if your posts are long enough you can run a cable from top of post to end of gate to help support the weight.

Nothing but trouble. A properly built and installed gate Dosnt require any rigging.

 

[wbvs58]

If you don't want to spend money on a new bit or extension but have a bit of suitable diam, drill as far as you can from one side and with the drill still partly in the hole carefully line up and mark where you think it would exit and carefully drill from the other side to meet up the hole. I have done it many times with reasonable success.
Also if an existing bit is just a bit short, sharpen a bit of steel rod and hammer it through to show where it would emerge.
Yeh, I'm a bit of a butcher but sometimes you just gotta make do with what you got at the time.
Ken

 

[Kingfisher]

If you are still worried about swag what some do here and call a dead man. Is dig a small trench on inside and fill with cement so they have something to push against. I would still want them braced the other way.
Can someone explain this to me? ;/

 

[fenceman]

If you are still worried about swag what some do here and call a dead man. Is dig a small trench on inside and fill with cement so they have something to push against. I would still want them braced the other way.
Can someone explain this to me? ;/

Image for example a 5 foot deep concrete pier for the gate post.
You dig say a 2 foot deep by 2 foot wide by 3 foot long trench connected to the hole for the pier put some rebar in and pour you concrete. The deadman gives extra support to pier.

 

[Kingfisher]

If you are still worried about swag what some do here and call a dead man. Is dig a small trench on inside and fill with cement so they have something to push against. I would still want them braced the other way.
Can someone explain this to me? ;/

Image for example a 5 foot deep concrete pier for the gate post.
You dig say a 2 foot deep by 2 foot wide by 3 foot long trench connected to the hole for the pier put some rebar in and pour you concrete. The deadman gives extra support to pier.

Ok I got it. I guess it rains more south of San Antonio. I know if I could set a telephone pole 5 ft deep at my place in Brownwood I'd be a hero! :)