Handgun Question

[Caustic Burno]

I carry in my truck and have a pistol by the bed. I know if some one approaches me in those places they have crossed the line and I will take action. Other places then that there are too many factors for me to just pull out a gun and start blasting.

I feel that if you are carrying in public that you are automatically accepting a responsibility and you have become a target. If I wanted to do that I would have been a police officer.

If I need to carry when I am on a ranch.. I do.. no need for a license or permit.

I have never been in a situation where I didn't have a pistol for person protection and wished I did. Alot of that can be prevented up front.

I am also a male who is 6'2" and a solid #250 who lives in Texas. All factors that influense my logic.

Your breaking the law carrying a pistol in your truck in Texas without a CHL. The old traveling two county lines is pretty weak defense, as soon as you arrive at your detination that is now your residence. Which it becomes illegal to carry off your residence.

The law has changed. You can carry a concealed handgun loaded as long as you are traveling... and there is no distance mentioned in the definition of traveling. The bourden is on the state to prove that you are not traveling. It use to be the other way around.

And before the law was changed they would never bother you about it anyways. As long as you werent busted with 10lbs of Marijuana they would look the other way as far as the handgun. Especially in rural areas or with women.

So you are still breaking the law a trip to Wal Mart or the feed store is not considered traveling. You might beat the wrap but you will take the ride.

 

[backhoeboogie]

I carry in my truck and have a pistol by the bed. I know if some one approaches me in those places they have crossed the line and I will take action. Other places then that there are too many factors for me to just pull out a gun and start blasting.

I feel that if you are carrying in public that you are automatically accepting a responsibility and you have become a target. If I wanted to do that I would have been a police officer.

If I need to carry when I am on a ranch.. I do.. no need for a license or permit.

I have never been in a situation where I didn't have a pistol for person protection and wished I did. Alot of that can be prevented up front.

I am also a male who is 6'2" and a solid #250 who lives in Texas. All factors that influense my logic.

Your breaking the law carrying a pistol in your truck in Texas without a CHL. The old traveling two county lines is pretty weak defense, as soon as you arrive at your detination that is now your residence. Which it becomes illegal to carry off your residence.

The law has changed. You can carry a concealed handgun loaded as long as you are traveling... and there is no distance mentioned in the definition of traveling. The bourden is on the state to prove that you are not traveling. It use to be the other way around.

And before the law was changed they would never bother you about it anyways. As long as you werent busted with 10lbs of Marijuana they would look the other way as far as the handgun. Especially in rural areas or with women.

So you are still breaking the law a trip to Wal Mart or the feed store is not considered traveling. You might beat the wrap but you will take the ride.

There is a good book called, "A Matter of Personal Protection" by Doug Briggs that deals with weapons and the self defense laws of Texas. It is good reference to all legal precedence and was written long before you had the right to carry. Without a CHP, you are within the territory outlined by those precedences. It does indeed point out that you may get a trip to lock-up, or likely get a trip as well as costly attorney fees in order to walk away from the incidents.

That book is a good read and it has some very good recommendations for citizens.

 

[Brute 23]

I carry in my truck and have a pistol by the bed. I know if some one approaches me in those places they have crossed the line and I will take action. Other places then that there are too many factors for me to just pull out a gun and start blasting.

I feel that if you are carrying in public that you are automatically accepting a responsibility and you have become a target. If I wanted to do that I would have been a police officer.

If I need to carry when I am on a ranch.. I do.. no need for a license or permit.

I have never been in a situation where I didn't have a pistol for person protection and wished I did. Alot of that can be prevented up front.

I am also a male who is 6'2" and a solid #250 who lives in Texas. All factors that influense my logic.

Your breaking the law carrying a pistol in your truck in Texas without a CHL. The old traveling two county lines is pretty weak defense, as soon as you arrive at your detination that is now your residence. Which it becomes illegal to carry off your residence.

The law has changed. You can carry a concealed handgun loaded as long as you are traveling... and there is no distance mentioned in the definition of traveling. The bourden is on the state to prove that you are not traveling. It use to be the other way around.

And before the law was changed they would never bother you about it anyways. As long as you werent busted with 10lbs of Marijuana they would look the other way as far as the handgun. Especially in rural areas or with women.

So you are still breaking the law a trip to Wal Mart or the feed store is not considered traveling. You might beat the wrap but you will take the ride.

Nope I travel to the Wal-Mart and the feed store.

IF you are worried about the law you can also seperate the clip from the gun and then you will have ZERO problems.

Such an upstanding citizen Caustic Burno. For me... personal and family protection first... legalities some where down the line.

 

[Caustic Burno]

I carry in my truck and have a pistol by the bed. I know if some one approaches me in those places they have crossed the line and I will take action. Other places then that there are too many factors for me to just pull out a gun and start blasting.

I feel that if you are carrying in public that you are automatically accepting a responsibility and you have become a target. If I wanted to do that I would have been a police officer.

If I need to carry when I am on a ranch.. I do.. no need for a license or permit.

I have never been in a situation where I didn't have a pistol for person protection and wished I did. Alot of that can be prevented up front.

I am also a male who is 6'2" and a solid #250 who lives in Texas. All factors that influense my logic.

Your breaking the law carrying a pistol in your truck in Texas without a CHL. The old traveling two county lines is pretty weak defense, as soon as you arrive at your detination that is now your residence. Which it becomes illegal to carry off your residence.

The law has changed. You can carry a concealed handgun loaded as long as you are traveling... and there is no distance mentioned in the definition of traveling. The bourden is on the state to prove that you are not traveling. It use to be the other way around.

And before the law was changed they would never bother you about it anyways. As long as you werent busted with 10lbs of Marijuana they would look the other way as far as the handgun. Especially in rural areas or with women.

So you are still breaking the law a trip to Wal Mart or the feed store is not considered traveling. You might beat the wrap but you will take the ride.

Nope I travel to the Wal-Mart and the feed store.

IF you are worried about the law you can also seperate the clip from the gun and then you will have ZERO problems.

Such an upstanding citizen Caustic Burno. For me... personal and family protection first... legalities some where down the line.

There are always some that think they are above the law.
If you want to pack get a CHL. This line of thinking is no different than a gang banger packing. If your scared call the law, buy a dog and go to church.

 

[milesvb]

In 2005 the Texas legislature attempted to fix the old "traveling" problem we had with carrying a gun in a vehicle. The law was passed but local prosecutors were finding ways to circumvent it.

http://tsra.com/index.php?p=page&id=70

Unless I'm mistaken, this year they passed a "fix" to that previous bill that, as reported by the TSRA, allows a person not otherwise engaged in a criminal activity (other than being pulled over in a traffic stop) to have a handgun in their vehicle provided that it is not in plain sight.

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2007/ma ... vel-texas/

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 01815F.htm

 

[Mahoney Pursley Ranch]

I carry in my truck and have a pistol by the bed. I know if some one approaches me in those places they have crossed the line and I will take action. Other places then that there are too many factors for me to just pull out a gun and start blasting.

I feel that if you are carrying in public that you are automatically accepting a responsibility and you have become a target. If I wanted to do that I would have been a police officer.

If I need to carry when I am on a ranch.. I do.. no need for a license or permit.

I have never been in a situation where I didn't have a pistol for person protection and wished I did. Alot of that can be prevented up front.

I am also a male who is 6'2" and a solid #250 who lives in Texas. All factors that influense my logic.

Your breaking the law carrying a pistol in your truck in Texas without a CHL. The old traveling two county lines is pretty weak defense, as soon as you arrive at your detination that is now your residence. Which it becomes illegal to carry off your residence.

The law has changed. You can carry a concealed handgun loaded as long as you are traveling... and there is no distance mentioned in the definition of traveling. The bourden is on the state to prove that you are not traveling. It use to be the other way around.

And before the law was changed they would never bother you about it anyways. As long as you werent busted with 10lbs of Marijuana they would look the other way as far as the handgun. Especially in rural areas or with women.

So you are still breaking the law a trip to Wal Mart or the feed store is not considered traveling. You might beat the wrap but you will take the ride.

Nope I travel to the Wal-Mart and the feed store.

IF you are worried about the law you can also seperate the clip from the gun and then you will have ZERO problems.

Such an upstanding citizen Caustic Burno. For me... personal and family protection first... legalities some where down the line.

There are always some that think they are above the law.
If you want to pack get a CHL. This line of thinking is no different than a gang banger packing. If your scared call the law, buy a dog and go to church.

Maybe there is some legal reason he can't get a CHL. Not hard to obtain or costly. Why chance getting busted? ;-)

 

[Brute 23]

In 2005 the Texas legislature attempted to fix the old "traveling" problem we had with carrying a gun in a vehicle. The law was passed but local prosecutors were finding ways to circumvent it.

http://tsra.com/index.php?p=page&id=70

Unless I'm mistaken, this year they passed a "fix" to that previous bill that, as reported by the TSRA, allows a person not otherwise engaged in a criminal activity (other than being pulled over in a traffic stop) to have a handgun in their vehicle provided that it is not in plain sight.

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2007/ma ... vel-texas/

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 01815F.htm

Thank you. I am just exercising my rights.

I do not need a permit... I am well with in my rights to carry in my vehicle. It is not illegal. Plain and simple. Don't be scared "of getting busted". Be informed and know your rights.

If an officer wants to take it to court I would be glad to go and stand up for all our rights.

I have license plates on my Kawasaki Mule and I drive right throgh town. I carry a copy of the legislature that allows me to do so. I have had to show it to several officers who swore I was breaking a law. Remember they work for us,, the people.

 

[Alice]

In 2005 the Texas legislature attempted to fix the old "traveling" problem we had with carrying a gun in a vehicle. The law was passed but local prosecutors were finding ways to circumvent it.

http://tsra.com/index.php?p=page&id=70

Unless I'm mistaken, this year they passed a "fix" to that previous bill that, as reported by the TSRA, allows a person not otherwise engaged in a criminal activity (other than being pulled over in a traffic stop) to have a handgun in their vehicle provided that it is not in plain sight.

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2007/ma ... vel-texas/

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 01815F.htm

Thank you. I am just exercising my rights.

I do not need a permit... I am well with in my rights to carry in my vehicle. It is not illegal. Plain and simple. Don't be scared "of getting busted". Be informed and know your rights.

If an officer wants to take it to court I would be glad to go and stand up for all our rights.

I have license plates on my Kawasaki Mule and I drive right throgh town. I carry a copy of the legislature that allows me to do so. I have had to show it to several officers who swore I was breaking a law. Remember they work for us,, the people.

You can drive one of those thru town? Give me a link to the legislation, would ya'? I'd love to be able to drive my Polaris Ranger on the road...the highway...and thru town! I'm serious...I always thought the Ranger was only off road...

Alice

 

[Mahoney Pursley Ranch]

Your " Rights Under the Law " become Law, if the Governor signs the bill, September 2007.

 

[Triple D]

I don't have a dog in this fight but I can't take it no more :lol: I can only speak for Tx Law. You may drive any vehicle on a public street provided it meets the mandated laws, ie. registration, inspection, & proof of finacial responsibility.
The handgun issue is another matter. Some are right some are wrong. Someone stated earlier "you may beat the rap but you won't beat the ride." That's the fact. The Code of Criminal procedure and the penal code spells out the law in black and white, but it's never black and white. It is a "defense to prosecution to be traveling" but it's not a law. ride rap think. There is no definiton of traveling in the penal code. What's being left out of the conversation is something called Case Law, which simplly means every case is carried on it's own merrit. If I'm headed to or from the hunting grounds with my four wheeler, tripod, and a back set full of long guns, the presuption is I've been hunting. My handgun in the console. I may be safe unless I run across some hard nose.
'ride rap thing" If I deciide to leave camp after I unload my truck and head to the local liquer store at the hunting grounds, even though it's not my county of residence, with my handgun in the console, could be a problem. Every case is based on it's individual merrits. God I hope I haven't stared a storm. :(

 

[TheBullLady]

Well I was impulsive and picked up a nice Ruger 9 mm over the weekend.. and LOVE it. Have probably blasted 200 rounds through it so far. :lol:

A friend that is also a certified gun dealer is bringing a S & W 38 special by tomorrow to check out. Oh no.. I may like buying guns as well as I like buying COWS! :shock:

 

[Brute 23]

You can drive one of those thru town? Give me a link to the legislation, would ya'? I'd love to be able to drive my Polaris Ranger on the road...the highway...and thru town! I'm serious...I always thought the Ranger was only off road...
Alice

The MULE qualifies as a slow moving vehicle because it only goes 25mph. Which means you do not need an inspection (have blinkers and such). All you need is a slow moving vehicle triangle ($8), liabiltiy insurance ($75-$100), and a title or certificate of origin.

People have gotten plates for Rangers and Rhinos but if they catch you going over 25mph you are illegal.

Also a City can have an ordinance against driving them on the road but most don't.

Here is the TXDOT form that you fill out when you go to get the plates.

Here are some Mules with the plates.

 

[backhoeboogie]

Don't go dove hunting and then stop off at the school to pick up your daughter from ball practice with a shotgun in the gun rack. I know from experience, about 10 years back. When all the cars pulled in with lights flashing I was trying to figure out what was going on. I was considering where to put all the kids standing outside. Little did I realize they were all excited about me. Thankfully many knew me and told the others that everything was alright so they holstered their arms. Embarassed the daughter very well. Some bus driver had called in on me. I wasn't even there three minutes before this happened. I could have been charged but wasn't.

When you think about it, if they let me carry a shotgun in the rack of the truck, everyone else can too. Times have changed. When we were kids we all carried shotguns in the trucks and went dove hunting after school. Now kids get arrested for butter knives in the vehicles. When we used to get in conflicts the coaches broke out the boxing gloves. Now they call the cops and haul kids off for assault.

Laws are laws. Yes the officers work for us but they uphold rules we elect officials to legislate, whether or not we agree with the law has nothing to do with it. I try my best to abide by the law.

 

[Alice]

Thanks for the info, Brute. :)

I wouldn't really drive the Ranger in town, or even on the highway...I'm too chicken to do that. But, there has been a time or two that I would've liked to have been able to drive on the side of the highway (in the grass).

There's a really popular BBQ place on the outskirts of town that runs like a "shuttle" from the airport...yes, people actually fly in to eat there. They use a 2 seater golf cart and I always wondered how they could do that legally.

Alice

 

[sidney411]

Alice
Hard 8?

 

[Brute 23]

I drive some times on the back roads but I wouldn't go down the higway or through town just to cause a scene.

Alot of people do it so they can take their campers to state parks, lakes and beaches then drop down their mules and cruise. Its alot better than looking at every thing out of the window of you 4 door diesel.

IF you actualy just put the triangle you are legal for agricultural use.

We have property a couple miles fromt the house and hunt some corn fields close also and it is nice to just drive to them and not have to load up on a trailer every time.

 

[3MR]

I cant imagine anybody in my town would care. Nobody seems to mind anybody driving their big tractors right up to the pump a the gas station to fill up.

 

[Alice]

Alice
Hard 8?

:nod:

 

[john250]

I drive my 25 mph gator on the hwy with an SMV emblem. Law enforcement has seen me and has not challenged me. The Gator is no different than a tractor, in my opinion. No license required in Indiana. The insulators, hammers, wire cutters and spot sprayer in the bed should give me a pretty good argument if I ever have to go to court.

Indiana gives you a registration to ride ATV's on public roads. I see people going VERY fast on them and it scares me to death. Those spongy tires are going to give the rider NO options in an avoidance maneuver. The ATV is going to roll at 40 mph and someone new is going to be meeting St Peter. Usually some young male. And now I see businesses putting lift kits on ATV's. That's insane. Talk about a death wish. ATV's lend a lot of validity to Darwin's theories.




I hold my breath for the entire 350 yards I'm on the state hwy. In addition to the SMV emblem I put conspicuity tape all over the machine. Still, most drivers are hard put to deal with a slow moving vehicle.