cross_7
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I never put much stock in the oldwest gunslingers
I came across this
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I came across this
[youtube]TANC4VI8vF4[/youtube]
Gunslingers
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backhoeboogie
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Amazing.
Great friend of mine shoots competitive. Have been with him many times to competition. He pretty much competes with everything. Amazing how fast he can drop cylinders and reload the wheel guns.
As far as gunslingers, I am a Wes Hardin descendant. Have studied his history in depth as well as the Taylor Sutton feuds etc.
Great friend of mine shoots competitive. Have been with him many times to competition. He pretty much competes with everything. Amazing how fast he can drop cylinders and reload the wheel guns.
As far as gunslingers, I am a Wes Hardin descendant. Have studied his history in depth as well as the Taylor Sutton feuds etc.
Caustic Burno
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backhoeboogie":1vacktxh said:
John Wesley Hardin was definitely bad to the bone.
He was quoted to never killed anyone that didn't need killing.
inyati13
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Cross, when I was in Montana I shot defensive pistol every week-end at a range between Helena and Butte. It was a well equipped range with silhouettes (paper and mild steel). Defensive pistol allowed modern arms. But on occasion I would go out and shoot the cowboy shoots. Those guys fire their single action revolvers faster than we could from our 1911s. I believe the guy in the film is the one in Butte, Montana who many of our cowboy shooters took their single action colts to for custom tricking. Many of the cowboy shooters are very fancy with their single actions. A 1911 has to cycle and it takes time for the slide to do that. A single action revolver cylinder only turns 1/6 the circumference of the cylinder. Cowboy shooters use ammo that is loaded down, so the effect of recoil is reduced. The trigger is held back and you thumb the hammer (some palm the hammer as Bob does here, but in my opinion thumbing is easier). I always thought those Clint Eastwood movies were just entertainment, not so, there is some fact behind that fantasy. A good single action revolver shooter is NOT at a handicap. Just go watch them sometime. I was able to get decent but not good with my Ruger Blackhawk .44 magnum. In a defensive situation where firepower is not an issue, i.e., someone entering your residence, a single action revolver like a Ruger Blackhawk .44 magnum is not a handicap. The big bore single actions also offer the ability to shoot through walls or armor that some of the smaller semi-auto handguns lack. Of course, hard to beat a double barreled 12 ga. shotgun with 00 buckshot for effect and reliability.
PS: I just searched his name, I confirmed this is the guy who you could take your Colt Peacemaker to and he would do a "Race Job." Meaning he would work the hammer, trigger and change out the springs. I did my own Ruger Blackhawk using a spring kit but I never got serious in the Cowboy shooting but it is loads of fun, including dressing the part, etc. Bob Munden died on the way from Missoula to his home in Butte of a heart attack in 2012.
PS: I just searched his name, I confirmed this is the guy who you could take your Colt Peacemaker to and he would do a "Race Job." Meaning he would work the hammer, trigger and change out the springs. I did my own Ruger Blackhawk using a spring kit but I never got serious in the Cowboy shooting but it is loads of fun, including dressing the part, etc. Bob Munden died on the way from Missoula to his home in Butte of a heart attack in 2012.
Ouachita
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The cowboy shooting has been an interest of mine for a couple years. A friend turned me on to it. I figured it was good hobby for me and my sons. Then I learned the daughters are interested too :D
This outfit is about an hour and a half drive for us. Down at the very bottom of the page (link below) there is a box to click on for videos of what they do there. Mountain Valley Vigilantes, near Hot Springs, Arkansas. Until my buddy told me about them, I never knew such a sport existed. So when I watched them it made a lasting impression.
http://mvvcowboys.homestead.com/
This outfit is about an hour and a half drive for us. Down at the very bottom of the page (link below) there is a box to click on for videos of what they do there. Mountain Valley Vigilantes, near Hot Springs, Arkansas. Until my buddy told me about them, I never knew such a sport existed. So when I watched them it made a lasting impression.
http://mvvcowboys.homestead.com/
backhoeboogie
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Dogs and Cows":19ykgyh2 said:
Thanks. Maybe sometime.
Wes is the first known man to use a shoulder holster. They credit him as the inventor of it.
Shooting the man for snoring appears to have been pure accident. But if the Denver Post printed a story, it can be used as a source by time life books.
Hardin became a preacher in prison. Then he became a lawyer and was admitted to the bar here in Texas. He did his time.
The only reason he ever became an outlaw in the first place was because of reconstruction. Funny that three young teenage Texas boys held off a union regiment. Should tell someone something about country boys. Lol.
Cross I didn't intend to hi-jack your thread. I watch Sal compete and I am simply amazed at not only the speed, but the accuracy of those people competing. Sal will be the first to tell you there is no comparison today. Those gunslingers of the old west used black powder cartridges in their six shooters. Their old shotguns had Damascus barrels. Their choice of firearms were no where near as vast as what we have today. Think civil war. They were on the heels of it.
Caustic Burno
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Boogie I have loaded quite a bit of cartridge and shotgun with blackpowder, don't be fooled it worked real well.
I still routinely squirrel hunt with BP shotgun shells you can hunt all day and they kill just as far as today's shell's.
You just have to clean up when you are finished shooting if it is one or 50. I have a couple boxes of brass shotgun shells loaded right now.
800 fps out of a 45 Long Colt is still 800 fps a 44-40 is humming right at 1200 fps with a 200 grain bullet in a rifle.
Don't get me wrong it is not a 30-06 but it dang sure took care of a lot of Indians.
Here is the load data for BP.
http://www.goexpowder.com/load-chart.html
Most of the guys shooting SASS are using Trail Boss powder it imitates black velocities with out the clean up.
I still routinely squirrel hunt with BP shotgun shells you can hunt all day and they kill just as far as today's shell's.
You just have to clean up when you are finished shooting if it is one or 50. I have a couple boxes of brass shotgun shells loaded right now.
800 fps out of a 45 Long Colt is still 800 fps a 44-40 is humming right at 1200 fps with a 200 grain bullet in a rifle.
Don't get me wrong it is not a 30-06 but it dang sure took care of a lot of Indians.
Here is the load data for BP.
http://www.goexpowder.com/load-chart.html
Most of the guys shooting SASS are using Trail Boss powder it imitates black velocities with out the clean up.
highgrit
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It's no :bs: Alan. And In his day Joe Nelson was as fast or faster than anyone. WFDA, world records prove this. :nod:
