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Just wondering how many times you open and close a gate in a day ?
We have so many gates and some days I feel I spend an hour a day just opening and closing Gates.
Obviously I can't afford 30 gate closers and my wife has been not healthy enough to do it as she had done it for me for years.
So how many gates do you open and close a day?
 
Usually only a couple a day (because I'm running cattle on several different farms). I've got "electric polyrope gates" for the most part on my perimeter fencing... so no opener would work for those. I've got my farm set up really well, and most of the time once I'm inside the perimeter fence, I just duck the 4 wheeler underneath the polywire or the single HT subdivision fences. I keep a short piece of 3/8" fiberglass rod on the 4 wheeler, just grab that and lift the wire, and shoot the 4 wheeler underneath, and go on.
 
I have one field to get to there is 6 gates to open and close. I dread moving hay from that field. There is a right of way across a neighbor that joins me to get there and one of these days I am going to use it.
 
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Just finished rotating this morning. 3 gates to get to the pasture they are in today, same 3 gates later when I check them. This is the land my neighbors let me use to feed, have to open and close them.
 
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I rotationally graze so I leave them open except for the paddock they are in. I hate opening gates but the Mule makes it easier where you just step out and in. My big problem is I will let them into a new paddock and forget I have a back gate that I have left open.

Ken
 
Most of our gates are extra heavy duty. Very few are on hinges.
When we started dating my now wife was not impressed that the gates don’t swing freely. She’s pretty tiny and some of the 16’ gates weigh more than she does. She instantly got promoted to tractor driver and I became the official gate opener.
 
In about a week or so all the cows will go off to summer pasture. Once that happens all the gates will be left open except in the corral but there will be no reason to go in there.
 

I've often thought about a design like this... but here in MN we need to be dealing with snow... think about @chevytaHOE5674's situation (context is everything)... how would a gate like this work for him?

That said, IF... I was going to build something like this, using the weight of the vehicle would be the "optimal" way to do it, rather than these (I'm sure you're all aware of these), which are quite common here with dairies where they have to drive in/out regularly for feeding and manure hauling equipment all the time. The light weight of them though is a big advantage... the "psychological barrier" vs. a physical barrier can be a huge advantage too.

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The problem with these of course is that they drag along and scuff your rigs going through... not good for a car or pickup, maybe not so much of an issue for a tractor, where it rubs on the wheels mostly.

But perhaps a "version" of a combination of the two could work well? IF... your "wheel works" (the portion that is vehicle weight driven) are "protected" AND any moisture accumulation is addressed (i.e.: positioned over a "pit system" with appropriate drainage applied, so that any snow melt/accumulation is accomodated and/or can be drained away, and snow accumulation on top can still be plowed off), and then you use a lightweight electrified "gate" to contain the animals...

Something more like this then, using a parallel linkage system instead of "tilting" the whole gate. You could counterweight the mechanism with an adjustable extension spring. Everything lifts easily, vertically, to help avoid snow accumulation concerns (thinking of extremes like @chevytaHOE5674's situation again). You could keep that bottom rail "reasonably high" off the ground if this is a concern where you live (say like 24") and then use some vertical streamers, perhaps made of chain, that hang down to close that final gap for calves, if necessary. That way, if the snow did build up at the gate, say to 24" deep, the bottom rail would generally be above the snow, and the "streamers" would pull up through the snow as the gate is lifted "fairly easily"... and the weight of the "lighter weight" (but not so light as, for example, a piece of polyrope) chains would help to maintain them "fairly vertically aligned and appropriately spaced" in windy conditions.

You could put as many "bars" on the gate as you'd like (perhaps more "cosmetic" than functional???)... if you've counterweighted them, they could ACT like they're as light as a feather almost... if you've properly adjusted the counterweight spring. You probably could also incorporate some "decorative styling" to it, like your ranch "brand", etc. Just a matter of using one's imagination. This doesn't have to be difficult. Of course, you could also simply add in a remote controlled electric winch system to raise and lower the gate. I would put one of these on each side of the drive, so each individual gate is shorter, while you would still be able to control a much wider opening. If you wanted, you could also have it where each individual gate is operated separately for a wide opening... say a 12' (or somewhat wider) individual gate, to achieve a 24' wide opening for large equipment, but then you can only open one, for a 12' wide opening, for narrower equipment, like a tractor, pickup, or SxS/4 wheeler. This could help if the critters are right there by the gate then too.

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I personally LIKE the idea of a purely mechanically controlled unit... just drive up, and your vehicle weight does all the work, automatically. But it might be more reliable mechanically (back to that "snow" issue), if you have power available, to use a winch setup with a remote. And you might be able to achieve it for less cost too.

You COULD mount control switches on posts on each side of the gate, if you wanted to avoid the need for a bunch of remotes to operate the gate (you'd need one in every vehicle, or for every person who will be using the gate). But now you'd at least have to be able to drive up alongside of that post and reach out the window... and how does that go with a tractor, combine, etc.? But it would sure be nice to NOT have to always have a remote control with you too, and still be able to open the gate without getting off/out of your vehicle.

I guess with this design, you COULD make it so that ALL of the lifting is done by the counterweight spring, and a "lock" holds it in the down position, and the " powered winch" is only used to pull the gate back down when using the remote. This way, if you don't happen to have the remote with you, you COULD still just manually "pull the spring loaded lock", and the gate would automatically open (raise up). Put a gas strut on it to control the speed of it opening... If your "powered winch" can freewheel out, but also recoil the cable back in like a tape measure does, now you could simply get out and manually pull the gate DOWN till it automatically was locked in the down position again. So it would be a "manually operated OR remote control operated gate". The "remote" would simply open the "lock" to open the gate, and then initiate the power to the winch to close it.

Additional edit: You could have a gate like this where it actually folds down between two uprights on the "closing end", so that it is a physically stronger barrier, like if a critter were to challenge it. And you could also have it built so that one of the "double gates" has a section that folds down on either side of the opposing gate... for the same purpose... one gate would slip in between the other, making it a more physically strong design when in the locked position. Would do the same thing as when you have two swinging gates that you overlap and chain to each other... just makes for a much stronger physical barrier... the longer the overlap (within reason), the stronger the barrier.

Guess I'd better get busy building in my shop!
 
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It depends. Every day in 2 of the pastures. If they're at/around the lake, there are 4 gates I may or may not have to open/close. Rarely do I use the south gate or corner gates. If they're at the barn, there are multiple gates but some of them are left open (most of the time).
 


Not so sure I'd want that thing scraping the underside of my rig... and I can just imagine how bent up those rods would become driving on them all the time. And again, context... how would this work in @chevytaHOE5674's situation? Texas probably pretty well, UP of Michigan, or MN, not so much. Same deal with the drive over SxS/4 wheeler gates that are similar.

Personally, I'd want a gate that LIFTS, and then I could plow the snow right on through without catching on anything. Even the "truck weight operated units"... even if that mechanism was "over a pit"... like a platform scale kind of a thing, could become pretty difficult to maintain the operation of, if you get alot of snow/ice, etc.
 
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Not so sure I'd want that thing scraping the underside of my rig... and I can just imagine how bent up those rods would become driving on them all the time. And again, context... how would this work in @chevytaHOE5674's situation? Texas probably pretty well, UP of Michigan, or MN, not so much. Same deal with the drive over SxS/4 wheeler gates that are similar.

Personally, I'd want a gate that LIFTS, and then I could plow the snow right on through without catching on anything. Even the "truck weight operated units... even if that mechanism was "over a pit"... like a platform scale kind of a thing, could become pretty difficult to maintain the operation of, if you get alot of snow/ice, etc.

I don't think they would be a big seller.

Ken
 

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