I'm not an Angus breeder but I will be using Angus genetics in a side project of mine I have been working on for several years. I spoke with one of the Gardiner brothers a couple of years ago in determining the right bulls I should use from his herd. We immediately agreed on 2 bulls and he suggested a third - Sure Fire... he told me that he personally really really liked that bull and expected exciting results from him as time progressed. He didn't elaborate beyond that, but if you have a breeder tell you that out of all his bulls he mentions him specifically... well I bought some straws on him after that conversation. Don't know if that helps anyone here, but thought it might coming from the breeder.