First Time AI Bull Selection Sanity Check

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I've just finished selecting bulls four our up and coming first ever round of AI in May. We have hired a well known local AI tech and will be doing 16 cows and 5 heifers with one round of timed AI and then turning out with our cleanup bull. This is our first time to select bulls for AI and I'm looking for a sanity check that I haven't overlooked something and am not about to cause a trainwreck. Our goal this year is to take a mix of Brangus, ultra-black, and F-1 Braford cows and produce a more uniform set of Brangus baldy calves while retaining heifers that are produced out of our best performing mommas. We sell 50% at the barn, retain 50% for freezer beef, and retain 3-5 heifers a year for replacement. Cows are fleshy and weigh 1200-1400 lbs with a couple 1150s and current birthweights range from 70-95 lbs.

When I was sorting and selecting within a breed, I first looked for EPDs that matched our goals of good growth and good maternal traits with average or better carcass quality, specifically marbling and low birth weight / good calving ease for our heifers. I avoided bulls that ranked 80% or worse over breed average in CED, BE, WW, YW, CEM, Milk, MH, MW, HS and marbling with the exception of my Herford selection which had poor marbling EPD. Once I found one with EPDs I liked, I looked at pedigree to see if the EPDs were a one off or something that was being carried in the family line avoiding bulls that appeared to have weird swings in EPDs from it's parents. I also looked at how many progeny the bull had for accuracy of the EPDs. I avoided bulls that had an outlier actual BW, WW, YW compared to its respective EPD. I am not great with eye appeal, especially considering you only get a fancy picture, but I did exclude a few this way.

I'm fairly confident in my selection on bulls for our momma cows, but less so on the heifers. We have brangus baldy, brangus, and ultra-black / angus plus heifers. I've selected lbw Brangus, lbw Hereford, and lbw angus for them. The heifers will be calving at near two years old and are currently 950-1050 lbs. I went with Sankeys Special Op 108E for the Brangus bull and Boyd 31Z Blueprint for the Hereford. Any reason I should be losing sleep over possible calving issues with my plan? I know the lbw angus should do great but what about putting the lbw Brangus on the angus plus heifers?

As always, advice and feedback is appreciated.
 
I've just finished selecting bulls four our up and coming first ever round of AI in May. We have hired a well known local AI tech and will be doing 16 cows and 5 heifers with one round of timed AI and then turning out with our cleanup bull. This is our first time to select bulls for AI and I'm looking for a sanity check that I haven't overlooked something and am not about to cause a trainwreck. Our goal this year is to take a mix of Brangus, ultra-black, and F-1 Braford cows and produce a more uniform set of Brangus baldy calves while retaining heifers that are produced out of our best performing mommas. We sell 50% at the barn, retain 50% for freezer beef, and retain 3-5 heifers a year for replacement. Cows are fleshy and weigh 1200-1400 lbs with a couple 1150s and current birthweights range from 70-95 lbs.

When I was sorting and selecting within a breed, I first looked for EPDs that matched our goals of good growth and good maternal traits with average or better carcass quality, specifically marbling and low birth weight / good calving ease for our heifers. I avoided bulls that ranked 80% or worse over breed average in CED, BE, WW, YW, CEM, Milk, MH, MW, HS and marbling with the exception of my Herford selection which had poor marbling EPD. Once I found one with EPDs I liked, I looked at pedigree to see if the EPDs were a one off or something that was being carried in the family line avoiding bulls that appeared to have weird swings in EPDs from it's parents. I also looked at how many progeny the bull had for accuracy of the EPDs. I avoided bulls that had an outlier actual BW, WW, YW compared to its respective EPD. I am not great with eye appeal, especially considering you only get a fancy picture, but I did exclude a few this way.

I'm fairly confident in my selection on bulls for our momma cows, but less so on the heifers. We have brangus baldy, brangus, and ultra-black / angus plus heifers. I've selected lbw Brangus, lbw Hereford, and lbw angus for them. The heifers will be calving at near two years old and are currently 950-1050 lbs. I went with Sankeys Special Op 108E for the Brangus bull and Boyd 31Z Blueprint for the Hereford. Any reason I should be losing sleep over possible calving issues with my plan? I know the lbw angus should do great but what about putting the lbw Brangus on the angus plus heifers?

As always, advice and feedback is appreciated.
I always select bulls by phenotype first... and then select for EPDs if they are important for some specific trait(s). The people my steers and heifers sell to shop with their eyes before they look at papers... and I've seen some pretty sorry looking animals that have great EPDs. It's easy enough to find great looking animals and then check the EPDs that suit.

And LBW/CE for heifers, which will make terminal calves, but after that they better be able to calve from any bull with reasonable numbers and I stay away from LBW in particular.
 
I've just finished selecting bulls four our up and coming first ever round of AI in May. We have hired a well known local AI tech and will be doing 16 cows and 5 heifers with one round of timed AI and then turning out with our cleanup bull. This is our first time to select bulls for AI and I'm looking for a sanity check that I haven't overlooked something and am not about to cause a trainwreck. Our goal this year is to take a mix of Brangus, ultra-black, and F-1 Braford cows and produce a more uniform set of Brangus baldy calves while retaining heifers that are produced out of our best performing mommas. We sell 50% at the barn, retain 50% for freezer beef, and retain 3-5 heifers a year for replacement. Cows are fleshy and weigh 1200-1400 lbs with a couple 1150s and current birthweights range from 70-95 lbs.

When I was sorting and selecting within a breed, I first looked for EPDs that matched our goals of good growth and good maternal traits with average or better carcass quality, specifically marbling and low birth weight / good calving ease for our heifers. I avoided bulls that ranked 80% or worse over breed average in CED, BE, WW, YW, CEM, Milk, MH, MW, HS and marbling with the exception of my Herford selection which had poor marbling EPD. Once I found one with EPDs I liked, I looked at pedigree to see if the EPDs were a one off or something that was being carried in the family line avoiding bulls that appeared to have weird swings in EPDs from it's parents. I also looked at how many progeny the bull had for accuracy of the EPDs. I avoided bulls that had an outlier actual BW, WW, YW compared to its respective EPD. I am not great with eye appeal, especially considering you only get a fancy picture, but I did exclude a few this way.

I'm fairly confident in my selection on bulls for our momma cows, but less so on the heifers. We have brangus baldy, brangus, and ultra-black / angus plus heifers. I've selected lbw Brangus, lbw Hereford, and lbw angus for them. The heifers will be calving at near two years old and are currently 950-1050 lbs. I went with Sankeys Special Op 108E for the Brangus bull and Boyd 31Z Blueprint for the Hereford. Any reason I should be losing sleep over possible calving issues with my plan? I know the lbw angus should do great but what about putting the lbw Brangus on the angus plus heifers?

As always, advice and feedback is appreciated.
Consider good EPDs and highly proven bulls for heifer. Weighs for your heifers are good. I think you will be fine.
 
We starting using AI sires on heifers in 23. We had some wrecks using young unproven sires with low accuracy EPD's. They had no calves on the ground to go by. Last year I did research for older proven bulls known for having full term pregnancies instead of 2-3 weeks early. Settled on 2 9 year sires that have been used by heifer developers. This year the first calves arrived in due date and were vigorous and up and sucking quick. Will continue using proper sires.
 

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