First Registered heifer (now with pics)

[HOSS]

Well I attended Circle M Farms production sale Saturday and somehow walked away with a registered Balancer heifer. Can't figure out how that happened :o Anyway the sale looked to be a success for Circle M Farms. High selling bull was a Balancer bull out of Leachman Right Time. He brought $5,500.00 for half possesion and half interest. Most of the bulls sold really well and some of the bred cows and heifers brought $1,400 to $3,500. I saw a pretty little Balancer heifer out of Summitcrest MA Alliance that I liked. Her numbers are pretty good with a low BW and pretty good WW and YW. She is a very feminine type that should make a great cow. I have to decide what bull to AI her to by May.....decisions, decisions..... :D Anyway, I have always bought registered bulls but never a registered heifer or cow so this is a new experience. I have kicked around the idea of switching over to a registered herd. She may be my first step. I'll see how I like it.

 

[Oldtimer]

I've never heard of a "registered" balancer before...I thought they were just a cross between angus and gelbvieh- just like a baldy was a cross between a hereford and an angus...

What association registers them- the Gelbvieh? Or do they have their own association?...

I'm waiting for those Polocks to recreate that 1600's era old cow from DNA- so I can start a new breed association in this country...I want to be the Treasurer.... ;-)

 

[HOSS]

I've never heard of a "registered" balancer before...I thought they were just a cross between angus and gelbvieh- just like a baldy was a cross between a hereford and an angus...

What association registers them- the Gelbvieh? Or do they have their own association?...

I'm waiting for those Polocks to recreate that 1600's era old cow from DNA- so I can start a new breed association in this country...I want to be the Treasurer.... ;-)

Registered by the American Gelbvieh Association.

 

[hillsdown]

Congrats on your new purchase Hoss. Pic of the new gal would be nice.. :)

Next time go for straight GV .. ;-)

 

[hillsdown]

I've never heard of a "registered" balancer before...I thought they were just a cross between angus and gelbvieh- just like a baldy was a cross between a hereford and an angus...

What association registers them- the Gelbvieh? Or do they have their own association?...

I'm waiting for those Polocks to recreate that 1600's era old cow from DNA- so I can start a new breed association in this country...I want to be the Treasurer.... ;-)

Never mind ........... :roll:

 

[HOSS]

Congrats on your new purchase Hoss. Pic of the new gal would be nice.. :)

Next time go for straight GV .. ;-)

I'll take some pics when I get a chance. My intention was to look at straight GV heifers........I got there and while looking over the pens I picked the ones I was interested in by EPD's and phenotype. My #1 pick of that pen was a straight Gelbvieh and she sold past my budget level and the Balancer heifer was my #2 pick on my priority list. A few more sold past my limit until the bidding got into my range. I won the bid and she was still available so I took her. This was a pick-of the-pen type auction. I guess that shows the difference between the eye and the need of various cattlemen. Some that bid out higher and were picked ahead of my heifer I didn't feel were as good on phenotype or EPD's.

 

[3waycross]

I've never heard of a "registered" balancer before...I thought they were just a cross between angus and gelbvieh- just like a baldy was a cross between a hereford and an angus...

What association registers them- the Gelbvieh? Or do they have their own association?...

I'm waiting for those Polocks to recreate that 1600's era old cow from DNA- so I can start a new breed association in this country...I want to be the Treasurer.... ;-)

Maybe HD doesn't mind but I do. The Balancers are registered by the Gelbvieh Assn. which you already knew.

 

[dun]

Some that bid out higher and were picked ahead of my heifer I didn't feel were as good on phenotype or EPD's.

If you ever figure out why that is let us know.
I've seen animals that wouldn;t crap on the best part of get sucked up and some really good ones sell cheap. It isn;t all the swapping money deal either.

 

[cmf1]

Congrats Hoss,
I bought a couple of registered MG's last year to see how I might like raising some registered stock.
Just to experiment.
Raising some cattle anyway.
Why not try the consistency approach on a couple just to see if it speaks to me?
They're due to drop any day now and I'll know a little more than I did before.
So far I'm enjoying them as much as the others.
And it's kinda cool knowing and studying the lineage of an animal to maybe figure what could be added or taken from the genes.
I guess that's why they have different Registries.

Who knows?
Maybe one day I'll be as proud of my Reg. animals as them are that own "Gods' own cattle".

Again congratulations and good luck with your investment.
Keep us posted on her development.

 

[cowwrangler]

i am kinda about the same Hoss,i have 2 straight gv heifer,one just had her calf couple weeks ago,i bred her to Encore and she had a nice ,nice heifer,the other is younger and open yet,gonna breed her to Encore also,the plan is kinda to breed my own bulls ,will see how things go

 

[HOSS]

i am kinda about the same Hoss,i have 2 straight gv heifer,one just had her calf couple weeks ago,i bred her to Encore and she had a nice ,nice heifer,the other is younger and open yet,gonna breed her to Encore also,the plan is kinda to breed my own bulls ,will see how things go

cowwrangler,

Do you have any pics of the Encore calves? I have looked at this bull and he might be a candidate to breed this heifer to.

 

[cowwrangler]

i am kinda about the same Hoss,i have 2 straight gv heifer,one just had her calf couple weeks ago,i bred her to Encore and she had a nice ,nice heifer,the other is younger and open yet,gonna breed her to Encore also,the plan is kinda to breed my own bulls ,will see how things go

cowwrangler,

Do you have any pics of the Encore calves? I have looked at this bull and he might be a candidate to breed this heifer to.

i will see if i can get you a pic of her today Hoss

 

[Oldtimer]

OK-- I've known that there has been angus/gelvieh cross bulls around for years-- Leachmans sold them with all kinds of differing percentages and sold them as balancers- and a local fellow sells them as commercial bulls- but contrary to what 3 way says I did not know there was now a registration for them..

I did know the AAA had been approached to record them- but had turned them down....

Which now- with your talk of breeding them to different bulls- brings me to another question-- do you have to breed one "balancer" to another "balancer' to be registered as a "balancer"-- or can you breed to an angus bull and register a 1/4 blood gelbvieh (like many of the ones Leachmans used to sell were)? ...
What % does it need to be to qualify as a "registered balancer"?

 

[3waycross]

i am kinda about the same Hoss,i have 2 straight gv heifer,one just had her calf couple weeks ago,i bred her to Encore and she had a nice ,nice heifer,the other is younger and open yet,gonna breed her to Encore also,the plan is kinda to breed my own bulls ,will see how things go

cowwrangler,

Do you have any pics of the Encore calves? I have looked at this bull and he might be a candidate to breed this heifer to.

Nuthin wrong with Encore but since there is semen available(Bull Barn) on his father I would rather use him. He has a ton of great sons out there. Why not get closer to the source.

 

[HOSS]

OK-- I've known that there has been angus/gelvieh cross bulls around for years-- Leachmans sold them with all kinds of differing percentages and sold them as balancers- and a local fellow sells them as commercial bulls- but contrary to what 3 way says I did not know there was now a registration for them..

I did know the AAA had been approached to record them- but had turned them down....

Which now- with your talk of breeding them to different bulls- brings me to another question-- do you have to breed one "balancer" to another "balancer' to be registered as a "balancer"-- or can you breed to an angus bull and register a 1/4 blood gelbvieh (like many of the ones Leachmans used to sell were)? ...
What % does it need to be to qualify as a "registered balancer"?

From the AGA site:

A Balancer® is a specific hybrid with the following breed composition and documentation requirements:
• ¼ to ¾ Gelbvieh and ¼ to ¾ Angus or Red Angus
• The sire and dam must be recorded by an officially recognized organization
(AGA, American Angus Association or Red Angus Association of America)
• At least 75% of the pedigree must be known and documented by the AGA and/or another officially recognized registration association.

 

[Oldtimer]

OK-- I've known that there has been angus/gelvieh cross bulls around for years-- Leachmans sold them with all kinds of differing percentages and sold them as balancers- and a local fellow sells them as commercial bulls- but contrary to what 3 way says I did not know there was now a registration for them..

I did know the AAA had been approached to record them- but had turned them down....

Which now- with your talk of breeding them to different bulls- brings me to another question-- do you have to breed one "balancer" to another "balancer' to be registered as a "balancer"-- or can you breed to an angus bull and register a 1/4 blood gelbvieh (like many of the ones Leachmans used to sell were)? ...
What % does it need to be to qualify as a "registered balancer"?

From the AGA site:

A Balancer® is a specific hybrid with the following breed composition and documentation requirements:
• ¼ to ¾ Gelbvieh and ¼ to ¾ Angus or Red Angus
• The sire and dam must be recorded by an officially recognized organization
(AGA, American Angus Association or Red Angus Association of America)
• At least 75% of the pedigree must be known and documented by the AGA and/or another officially recognized registration association.

Thanks Hoss-- Good luck with your heifer... I've seen some very nice Gelbvieh/angus cattle...They seem to compliment each other quite well...

I wonder if all that started with Leachmans years ago- and their putting together their own EPD's for composites...

 

[curtis]

I bought two registered breed heifers today, not my first and i hope not my last.

There Red, Red Polls... shall i hang my head shame because there red? I think not :banana: :banana:

 

[Jovid]

I bought two registered breed heifers today, not my first and i hope not my last.

There Red, Red Polls... shall i hang my head shame because there red? I think not :banana: :banana:

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[bigbull338]

congrats on your jump into the reg biz.hope she does well for you.did you put her in lil hosses name.

 

[HOSS]

Congrats on your new purchase Hoss. Pic of the new gal would be nice.. :)

Next time go for straight GV .. ;-)

Here are some pics. I'm no photographer and she wouldn't cooperate. What do ya'll think?