fert. price

Hoosier Pete":f1i3ya2l said:
An article from the Wall Street Journal said "chemical & fertilizer companies are aggressively pricing in an effort to capture the farmers new found wealth". Am I missing out on something here?

Pete

I found a new calf under some bushes. Other than that, I don't know what they could be referring too.
 
BusterBrown":36qeyqws said:
$500.00 per ton. = $100.00 per acre for me. Can't come out like that. :cry: :help:
400 #/acre :shock: You must be trying to win the county hay show or selling to horse people. Horse people will pay it, but the hay show doesn't. If this is for cattle you need to rethink your program.
 
Bluestem":pnzugox9 said:
BusterBrown":pnzugox9 said:
$500.00 per ton. = $100.00 per acre for me. Can't come out like that. :cry: :help:
400 #/acre :shock: You must be trying to win the county hay show or selling to horse people. Horse people will pay it, but the hay show doesn't. If this is for cattle you need to rethink your program.


As per soil Test..........Usage not a factor. :roll:
 
BusterBrown":cx4t7syn said:
$500.00 per ton. = $100.00 per acre for me. Can't come out like that. :cry: :help:

If you can keep from feeding any supplements you might.

Grain is going up like gangbusters.

Put the pencil to it. You may be surprised.
 
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Research has shown that 2 tons (4 - 1000 lb rolls) of bermudagrass per acre removes 100-40-85 out of the soil. If you don't replace the nutrients, it will be like writing checks on an account without making a deposit. After awhile you will losse your stand.

You can cut back on fertilizer, but expect less yield. You can delay harvest and produce more volume, but will probably need to supplement the hay more to balance the needs of the animals.

Producers really only have three options - 1) Do not fertilize and reduce stocking rates. 2) Fertilize and continue or 3) start a managed intensive grazing program tha utilizes legumes that are planted annually.
 
Taken from: http://foragesoftexas.tamu.edu/pdf/fert.pdf

"The amount of fertilizer needed per acre depends on the nutrient status of the soil; the desired production level
(tons/acre, stocking rate) and whether the pasture will be used for hay, grazing or both. If soils contain
naturally sufficient or adequate carryover levels of some nutrients, the fertilizer rate can be reduced
accordingly."


Also depends on how fast nutrients leach from soil.
 
1982vett":2snno0ci said:
Taken from: http://foragesoftexas.tamu.edu/pdf/fert.pdf

"The amount of fertilizer needed per acre depends on the nutrient status of the soil; the desired production level
(tons/acre, stocking rate) and whether the pasture will be used for hay, grazing or both. If soils contain
naturally sufficient or adequate carryover levels of some nutrients, the fertilizer rate can be reduced
accordingly."


Also depends on how fast nutrients leach from soil.
From your location status, I note you are from Central Texas where your soils have a great deal more natural fertility than our East Texas soils do. There are some places in Van Zandt County that the water well drillers tell me has 40 feet of sand before they get to any clay. Soil test recommendation called for 80-25-60 for 1 1/2 tons per acre.
 
OK..... I can lament fertilizer prices to the end of time but it won't help a bit.

I paid 3.49 a gallon for tractor diesel yesterday. I fully expect gasoline prices to top $4.00 a gallon by Memorial Day. The world is changing how do I deal with it?

I have just planted 400 lbs of clover and 200 lbs of mixed fescue and orchard on my 40 acres. I am installing cross fencing to implement intensive grazing practice. I had 60+ tons of lime loaded on this past fall.
Just how much can this newcomer (to the business) expect to maintain soil fertility using legumes and intensive grazing practices? Is it possible to minimize fertilizer costs in these or other ways?

Jon
 
MissouriExile":11czmi7l said:
OK..... I can lament fertilizer prices to the end of time but it won't help a bit.

I paid 3.49 a gallon for tractor diesel yesterday. I fully expect gasoline prices to top $4.00 a gallon by Memorial Day. The world is changing how do I deal with it?

I have just planted 400 lbs of clover and 200 lbs of mixed fescue and orchard on my 40 acres. I am installing cross fencing to implement intensive grazing practice. I had 60+ tons of lime loaded on this past fall.
Just how much can this newcomer (to the business) expect to maintain soil fertility using legumes and intensive grazing practices? Is it possible to minimize fertilizer costs in these or other ways?

Jon

If you get the fertility and ph were it needs to be, don;t hay cut but only graze you'll have a very little decrease in fertility year to year. Prafticing MIG is one of the cheapest ways to improve a pasture. It's haying that sucks up the fertility.
 
$560/ton here for 29-4-6 in bulk. I ordered mine. Dealer said it was going up daily.
 

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