Feed

[Alfar]

Can i feed fatting cattle with wheat bran, soybean meal and rice straw?

 

[NIdahoShorthorns]

Yes, but introduce knew feed slowly to allow them to adjust.

 

[NIdahoShorthorns]

I've heard of people using canola waste after pressings with success around here, which I'd think is similar to soy meal. Out of curiosity, those seem like three very different products. Where are you that you'd be getting all three at once?

 

[Alfar]

I’m from indonesia

 

[NIdahoShorthorns]

I'd probably start with higher percentage straw at the start and slowly increase the ratio of the wheat and soybeans as the cattle adjust.

 

[Alfar]

Better wheat bran or corn?

 

[NIdahoShorthorns]

Better wheat bran or corn?

Which is cheaper? Not a lot of wheat gets fed around me because it costs more. Wheat, and other cereal grains, can cause more ruminal issues if feed in too high a concentration. The more processed the meal is the more care you'll need to take. So start with mostly straw(high dry matter) and build up.

 

[farmerjan]

2 totally different type feeds. Corn will make them gain... think pigs eating corn/getting fatter... Wheat bran will add some nutrients but will add more bulk/fiber...
Search the composition of them on the internet to understand what each will offer in the way of nutrition.

 

[Travlr]

I'm from indonesia

If you click on your profile, top right, and scroll down to Account details, you can type in Indonesia... and we can stop asking all the time because we'll know.

You could also tell us what kind of cattle you have and a little about what you do with them. Very cool to have someone from Indonesia here. Welcome!!!

 

[Dave]

Back when I was studying animal nutrition in college they said to limit wheat to 25% of the ration. Long enough ago I don't remember the reason. If what you call wheat bran is the same as mill run here it won't have a lot of energy in it. The rice straw will give you the needed fiber. The Soybean meal will give you the protein which will help to break down the straw. You might want something to give you a little more energy.

 

[Travlr]

Back when I was studying animal nutrition in college they said to limit wheat to 25% of the ration. Long enough ago I don't remember the reason. If what you call wheat bran is the same as mill run here it won't have a lot of energy in it. The rice straw will give you the needed fiber. The Soybean meal will give you the protein which will help to break down the straw. You might want something to give you a little more energy.

Yeah, from the little I remember of my nutrition classes rice straw is more a filler than a food. so you're right there. Doesn't soy meal also have a lot of fiber? And wheat bran? Sounds a lot like fiber overload...

 

[Alfar]

Yeah, from the little I remember of my nutrition classes rice straw is more a filler than a food. so you're right there. Doesn't soy meal also have a lot of fiber? And wheat bran? Sounds a lot like fiber overload...

soybean meal have crude fiber max 4% and protein min 46% and wheatbran have a crude fiber like 9%

 

[Alfar]

Back when I was studying animal nutrition in college they said to limit wheat to 25% of the ration. Long enough ago I don't remember the reason. If what you call wheat bran is the same as mill run here it won't have a lot of energy in it. The rice straw will give you the needed fiber. The Soybean meal will give you the protein which will help to break down the straw. You might want something to give you a little more energy.

What you suggest for the energy ? Corn?

 

[Alfar]

If you click on your profile, top right, and scroll down to Account details, you can type in Indonesia... and we can stop asking all the time because we'll know.

You could also tell us what kind of cattle you have and a little about what you do with them. Very cool to have someone from Indonesia here. Welcome!!!

I’m fattening simmental

 

[Alfar]

2 totally different type feeds. Corn will make them gain... think pigs eating corn/getting fatter... Wheat bran will add some nutrients but will add more bulk/fiber...
Search the composition of them on the internet to understand what each will offer in the way of nutrition.

so what your recommendations? Corn and soybean meal it’s enough? Because in rice straw have 3 or 4% protein

 

[farmerjan]

I am not a nutritional expert... I really cannot advise, just wanted to point out that wheat bran is totally different from eating something like corn. We used to have wheat bran at the historic mill I worked at and I would get it and mix into chicken feed and cattle feed at about 2-300 lbs per ton of feed to extend the feed because I was able to get it as a by product when the mill couldn't sell it...so I would bring it home and we would just add it to our feed... no formula... it was basically just an extra "fiber" filler.

 

[NIdahoShorthorns]

https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/nutritive-value-of-feeds-for-beef-cattle.html
It seems like you would have a lot of protein and fiber. Probably not enough starch, which the corn would fix. Depends on cost and your desired end product. Starch makes fat and marbling, but different regions have different preferences for the finished product. Also, as a few have pointed to "bran" and "meal" can mean a lot of different things, so build into any ration slowly.

 

[Alfar]

https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/nutritive-value-of-feeds-for-beef-cattle.html
It seems like you would have a lot of protein and fiber. Probably not enough starch, which the corn would fix. Depends on cost and your desired end product. Starch makes fat and marbling, but different regions have different preferences for the finished product. Also, as a few have pointed to "bran" and "meal" can mean a lot of different things, so build into any ration slowly.

Here in indonesia better have a little fat and marbling , if’its not corn what then? That have energy and low fat