Federal ID
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We started tagging and tattooing all calves back in the late 80's and early 90's when people were stealing and killing cattle so bad. Someone can steal a calf and cut the tag out of the ear and sell it and nobody will know, but you tattoo and the calves are stolen, then you alert all the salebarns to watch for the tattoo's and the thieves get caught when they run them through the salebarn. We tattoo a herd id number then the tag number in the ear.
Oldtimer
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rgv4":sk9kn46m said:
rgv4- You better be raising some really "eared cattle" if you plan to tattoo the National ID number as it has been proposed-- Can't remember off hand if its 13 or 17 numbers long-- But either way its gonna take a lot of ear..........
Tattoos also fade or in some cases are illegible. I bought some cattle one time I couldn't tell how old they were. I looked at the tattoo from the bangs and it was not there or I could tell there was green ink but no number. I too think a system like the bangs tags could work. The Idea of policing itself is silly.
Scotty
Scotty
Scotty":2vziorou said:
I've got several cattle that the bangs tags have come out, after so long of working around the hole in the ear gets bigger and the tags can get pulled out very easy.
Just like number tags in the ear's fall out or get pulled out.
fellersbarnoneranch
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It sounds like a microchip implant would be an alternative.
I did "self checkout" at Wal-Mart the other day...I had the hardest time getting a pack of gum to scan! So, "hold still cattle--no jumping around whilest I try to get that bar code off your behind!" :lol2: :lol2: :?
I did "self checkout" at Wal-Mart the other day...I had the hardest time getting a pack of gum to scan! So, "hold still cattle--no jumping around whilest I try to get that bar code off your behind!" :lol2: :lol2: :?
fellersbarnoneranch":zprjdwe4 said:
Some may think it's funny, but, I personally think that a implant would be the best way to go. Then when the animal is sold, the ownership information could be changed on a computer program. I'm all for it.
fellersbarnoneranch
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The only jest I make is at the "hold still" part! The big issue in chips, as I see it is that it needs to be a universal program and there will be a lot of companies hot after that contract! Business will do what is in their best interest and may cause some problems for cattle business, as if there aren't problems enough! maybe we should implement the "halter progrram" We could hire local FFA or girlscouts to halter break all of our animals, and just have custom halters for each animal with their origin and map of their travels! (okay people--do you know that I am joking about the halters???)
hillbilly
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I think the microchip thing is going to be expendsive and less reliable than
the bangs tag thing.
Yes, bangs tags somtimes fall out before a cow dies...But not to many 2
year olds have lost there's.
I don't think we will have to tag our cows or bulls untill we sell them, I don't think we will have to tag our replacement heifers.
I think we will only tag our feeders at fall workup before we ship them.
A bangs type tag should stay in for the life of a feeder.
Hillbilly
the bangs tag thing.
Yes, bangs tags somtimes fall out before a cow dies...But not to many 2
year olds have lost there's.
I don't think we will have to tag our cows or bulls untill we sell them, I don't think we will have to tag our replacement heifers.
I think we will only tag our feeders at fall workup before we ship them.
A bangs type tag should stay in for the life of a feeder.
Hillbilly
No matter what method of tag is used, there is almost surely going to be a requirement for it to be electronicly read. It shouldn't be any more of a big deal to implant a chip under the skin in the neck or behind the ear as it is to implant a Ralgro implant.
Of course that's my opinion and I once predicted that personal computers would never catch on. Said the same thing about cell phones so my clairvoyance powers are pretty suspect.
dun
Of course that's my opinion and I once predicted that personal computers would never catch on. Said the same thing about cell phones so my clairvoyance powers are pretty suspect.
dun
twp
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Each state will run the ID program. The USDA will oversee it. Maybe I did not make myself clear. The only time that the government will step in is in outbreak.
Oldtimer
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twp":33bkn6d8 said:
I hope the USDA sets this up with more consistency than they did the Beef Checkoff collection-- or it will be a worthless joke-- Thats what they did with the checkoff is leave it to each state-- and we still have several states 20 years later that have no or virtually no beef boards or checkoff collection....................
