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Jogeephus

Jogeephus

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Four years ago I made a trade with a fella where I traded him 20 rolls of hay for some rye seed he grew and processed. He was to come by and pick up the rolls of hay but weeks went on and he never did. Since we were in a drought lots of people were hunting hay and several asked if they could buy it. I called him and asked him if he would be interested in my selling the hay for him (at a profit) but he said he'd rather have the hay so I left it untouched just where we agreed it would be. Its been 4 years now and the hay is not looking too sporty. In all I've probably reminded him of our trade about six or eight times but its still sitting there. What would you do?
 
i would tell him he has 1 week to pick it up,after that i would do with it as i please.i doubt he will mess with it.pity it went to waste when it was so badly needed.i see rounds here in kansas all the time that sit for years untouched and they just keep bailing more.i dont know why at some point they dont offer them for $5.00 just to get them moved.it seems silly to me.
 
Yes maybe if I have the time I'll just haul it to him and wash my hands of it. Really hate feeling like I owe someone something when I don't. Can't figure the guy out. He should have let me sell it for him.
 
It's not a matter of owing someone something or not. It boils down to reputation, and only reputation.
 
one problem with delivering it is that I would have to deliver new crop hay so that he could not say I delivered inferior inferior quality and was two years late delivering.

like cfpinz says....it is all about preserving your reputation.

my reputation is that I am a hard man to deal with....but honest....
but crap like this is what has made me that way....
I am pretty much - here is the price and cash on the barrel head.
 
Yes, this is part of the dilema. The hay is not wat it was four years ago but it is still the same hay we traded on. I did just as I said I would do but he chose not to pick it up as he promised. Maybe I just don't need to worry about since he evidently isn't. I'm sure next spring the bales would be a wonderful place to plant some tomatoes.
 
Why not just pay him in cash for what the rye seed was worth at the time of the deal and grow your tomatoes ;-) .
 
alisonb":5xkhnhv0 said:
Why not just pay him in cash for what the rye seed was worth at the time of the deal and grow your tomatoes ;-) .
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I like this idea. Pay him the seed price now or the seed price then, whichever is higher and be done with it, and you come out the bigger man for it. :cowboy: :banana:

then there is no hauling or labor cost in getting the hay to him. :compute:
 
pdfangus":em5u13qf said:
alisonb":em5u13qf said:
Why not just pay him in cash for what the rye seed was worth at the time of the deal and grow your tomatoes ;-) .
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I like this idea. Pay him the seed price now or the seed price then, whichever is higher and be done with it, and you come out the bigger man for it. :cowboy: :banana:

then there is no hauling or labor cost in getting the hay to him. :compute:
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So ya'll want Jogee to eat the loss of 20 good rolls of hay, which could have been put to good use, because the other end of the deal didn't come and get it?

I think not! Not Jogee's fault this guy didn't take care of his business.
How about this scenario.......Say it was the other way around. The fellow came and got his hay but Jogee never went to get his seed. Now the mice and weevil have had their way with. Would Jogee still be entitled to viable seed or the pile that is now garbage?

The problem is going to be the day this feller wants his hay, but not the pile that the trade was made with.
 
I don't want anyone to do anything.

He asked for opinions and like most folks I have one or two.

I don't think Jogeephus was looking for the slick way out. I think he was looking for the best way to honor a good faith deal and preserve his integrity. that is the only thing we carry with us to the grave.

Were it me i would not want this hanging over my head.

If Jogeephus had not gone to get the seed then the loss would indeed be on him, but since the other party has not taken delivery then the burden of payment is still Jo's.
 
I appreciate your comments on this. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to this. Its kinda like a Catch 22. On one hand I reminded him several times to come get the hay and he didn't. When it looked as though he wasn't going to pick it up I offered to sell it for him and he could have actually made money on top of the trade but he declined. His not taking payment for the rye is totally his fault. The degredation of the hay is totally his fault as well as it was some of the best hay I grew that year. But still everytime I look at the row of hay I feel owing and I don't like it. But on the otherhand, four years ago I bought two grain bins from a fella an have never taken delivery. They are gone now but don't feel I'm owed anything for my lack of performance in moving them but that's just me. Don't know how he feels in the matter. I think the simplest thing to do is just go see him and tell him the hay has gone to $hit and explain my feelings to him and offer him the money. This way, I think I can find out what his feelings in the matter are and whichever way I can put this matter to rest cause I'm really tired of looking at the heap of compost and it probably would grow some tasty tomatoes and as we all know a good tomatoe sandwich is priceless. :lol2:

I'll let you know how it goes.
 
I would give him an option. I would try to call and leave the following message. Since your hay has not been picked up yet, i plan on moving it out of my way. "If i don't from you by the end of the week, i will assume it is ok to move it."

Now when you move the hay and it falls apart near you garden then you might as well mulch the tomatoes.
 
Well I settled the matter today by driving to his farm and catching him cooling off under a shelter. Armed with a fist full of cash I walked up to him shook his hand and shot the $hit for a little while. When things were right I told him the reason for my trip and told him the hay had gone to crap and wanted to square up with him in the matter. I reached in my pocket and pulled out the cash and handed it to him but he refused to take it. I tried three times but he refused. He told me that he should have come and got it but he had hay scattered everywhere and just never found the time. He said knowing it was there was insurance but as it turned out he didn't need it and I could do whatever with it cause he knew it was probably not any good anymore. I told him that I had gotten use of the rye and would feel better if he took the money but he said it wasn't my fault he didn't pick it up. I told him I sure wished he'd have let me sell it and he just chuckled but said he just didn't know how bad the drought was going to be and knowing it was there gave him assurance. Anyhow, I think we both understand one another better and both hold each other with higher regards. Now I can go about and worry about more important things like tomatoe sandwiches. :lol2:
 
Jogeephus":cz2l6tjy said:
Well I settled the matter today by driving to his farm and catching him cooling off under a shelter. Armed with a fist full of cash I walked up to him shook his hand and shot the $hit for a little while. When things were right I told him the reason for my trip and told him the hay had gone to crap and wanted to square up with him in the matter. I reached in my pocket and pulled out the cash and handed it to him but he refused to take it. I tried three times but he refused. He told me that he should have come and got it but he had hay scattered everywhere and just never found the time. He said knowing it was there was insurance but as it turned out he didn't need it and I could do whatever with it cause he knew it was probably not any good anymore. I told him that I had gotten use of the rye and would feel better if he took the money but he said it wasn't my fault he didn't pick it up. I told him I sure wished he'd have let me sell it and he just chuckled but said he just didn't know how bad the drought was going to be and knowing it was there gave him assurance. Anyhow, I think we both understand one another better and both hold each other with higher regards. Now I can go about and worry about more important things like tomatoe sandwiches. :lol2:
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There ya go...

Looks like ya both can do business together in the future too.
 
john250":5mgdz3kf said:
That could have been real sticky.
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Quite honestly I wouldn't have thought the less of him had he taken the money. Actually I tried to sweeten the temption by offering him cash. I mean how often do you hear of someone turning down cash? I'm just glad its resolved and the doubt is gone. I do think more highly of him for turning it down cause this is what I would have done had the shoe been on the other foot. I'm just glad I can get the ugly mess out of my sight without feeling guilty.
 
You could have taken the TTCLMaw approach and needed some bail money.

It would have made for a colorful story.
 

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