EPD's

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Dvperez81":2ain82os said:
what it mean .
BW?
WW?
YW?
MA?

also I was looking at a web page and now I don't know if its only with brahmans but why is Manso somtimes included in the name ?

Why don't you copy the internet address and post it here? My guess is that Manso is a ranch name that's included in the name of their cattle?

Each breed has it's own set of EPDs. I'm not familar with the MA EPD. BW is birth weight. The BW EPD tells you that if you breed a bull with a BW EPD of 5 to a set of cows, you can EXPECT the calves to weigh five more pounds at birth than if you breed that same set of cows to a bull with a BW EPD of 0. WW is weaning weight. If you breed a set of cows to a bull with a WW EPD of 50, you would EXPECT the calves to weigh 30 more pounds at weaning than if you bred them to a bull with a WW EPD of 20. YW (Yearling weight) works the same. EPDs won't ever tell you what something will weigh. They just give you another way to compare one breeding animal to another.
 
Dvperez81":111lx0pu said:

Would that not be milking ability? Or perhaps maternal? I'm just learning about EPD's so I'm by no means educated on them, but that would be my guess.
 
Frankie":1oonwjy6 said:
Dvperez81":1oonwjy6 said:
what it mean .
BW?
WW?
YW?
MA?

also I was looking at a web page and now I don't know if its only with brahmans but why is Manso somtimes included in the name ?

Why don't you copy the internet address and post it here? My guess is that Manso is a ranch name that's included in the name of their cattle?

Each breed has it's own set of EPDs. I'm not familar with the MA EPD. BW is birth weight. The BW EPD tells you that if you breed a bull with a BW EPD of 5 to a set of cows, you can EXPECT the calves to weigh five more pounds at birth than if you breed that same set of cows to a bull with a BW EPD of 0. WW is weaning weight. If you breed a set of cows to a bull with a WW EPD of 50, you would EXPECT the calves to weigh 30 more pounds at weaning than if you bred them to a bull with a WW EPD of 20. YW (Yearling weight) works the same. EPDs won't ever tell you what something will weigh. They just give you another way to compare one breeding animal to another.
http://www.jdhudgins.com/0551photo.htm
http://www.jdhudgins.com/pedigree29.1h.html

what about if the BW is 2.8 what does that mean ?? care to give more input? also whats EPD stand for .
im curious about transporting semen outside the US . wouldnt mind having a couple of these guys in my herd .
 
if you look at the pedigree link it actually says "birth" "weaning" "yearling" and "milk" so although i'm not familiar with brahman epds i'm thinking MA means milking ability.
 
MANSO The Manso bred cattle set the standard of quality that became the trademark of the half circle L brand. Walter Hudgins went to Francitas, Texas, in 1933 and saw Manso for the first time, and he was very well impressed with the bull's type, conformation, size and disposition. He traded Mrs. Gayle five young bulls for Manso. Walter Hudgins, Edgar Hudgins and Carlton Hudgins went to pick up Manso in a Model A Ford truck equipped with a homemade cattle rack. Mrs. Gayle had no loading facilities. An improvised chute was made with gates, and they backed the truck up to it and loaded the bull. A halter was put on Manso although he was not halter-broken. They tied his head down to the floor of the truck to keep him from jumping out. The Hudgins group started home late in the afternoon and by nightfall they were just at El Campo. The lights failed on the truck and the last 20 miles to Hungerford were made in the dark, at a very slow pace, with Carlton riding on the front fender trying to see any stray cattle that might be on the road, before Edgar ran over them.

Manso was put with his first breeding herd on the J.D. Hudgins Ranch in the fall of 1933. He was bred in a pasture named "Kecura". During the first few weeks that Manso was with his herd of cows, no one ever saw him work a cow, and Walter Hudgins became apprehensive. He even hird an old Negro, Calvin Davis, a retired farmer, to observe the bull to see if he was working. This was long before any permanent veterinarians were living in Wharton County, and no one had ever thought about fertility-testing bulls, as there was no equipment in existence in this area for that purpose. After about 60 days of observation without any visible results, Calvin Davis said the bull was no good. However, Walter Hudgins concluded that the bull must be good, as he did not see many cows cycling.

Manso proved to be an excellent sire and very prolific. His first calves were born in the fall of 1934, and many cattlemen saw them and offered to buy the bull calves directly off their mothers at $100 each. During this time, grown, unregistered, Brahman-type cross cows with calves at their sides were bringing only $10 per pair. This was in the depths of the world-wide depression.

It was fortunate that Manso came into the Hudgins' possession at this particular time, as they badly needed a heavy-muscled bull to mate with their crosses of the Brazilian bulls on the Nellore cows, during this stage of developing their herd. There were granddaughters of the Brazilian bulls available for this mating, and they were much superior to the Nellore cows that Hudgins had started with in 1915. Had Manso come into the Hudgins herd in the early 1920's his influence would not have been so profound. Since Manso was a very thick, heavy set, fleshy, large and docile bull, he made an immediate imprint on his offspring, as the early Brahman cattle were very leggy, wild, narrow-bodied, and lacked fleshing ability. He had a very good head with much width between the eyes, although he was not short-headed as were British cattle. He had horns that turned down by the side of his head which were commonly referred to as "banana horns". He had sound feet and legs, moderate sheath, and was steel gray in color. He was especially wide over his shoulders, right behind his hump, where many Brahman cattle of that era were usually pinched in the heart girth and narrow. His loin was broad and deep, his depth of body was good. He had a straight underline with a deep flank and a straight topline, and he was well muscled in the hind quarter, carrying his width from his hip to his pin bones very evenly. He was wide, deep and thick in the twist with a slightly rounding rump that was very broad. Manso weighed one ton when he was fat. He was never halter-broken and never shown.

At the time of his death in 1943 at the age of 17 years, Manso had produced 316 offspring for the ranch. It has been estimated that over 75% of all cattle registered by the American Brahman Breeders Association carry Manso breeding. Manso is seen in the picture on the top of this page.
http://www.jdhudgins.com/about_jdh.html
 

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