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Dixieangus

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Electric fence- do you think that the stepin plastic posts for electrice fences can hold cattle that arent crazy. I think they may but thought they may be to short they are 46 in and i was thinking of putting 3 to 4 strands on them
 
Dixieangus":zpv55078 said:
Electric fence- do you think that the stepin plastic posts for electrice fences can hold cattle that arent crazy. I think they may but thought they may be to short they are 46 in and i was thinking of putting 3 to 4 strands on them

That will work just fine , as long as it is not in an area that if they get out they will be in danger or will be a danger to others or other's crops..

Ground rods are the key to a good fence and if they are hot wire trained, they will totally behave........
 
For cows we use a single wire 28-32 inches high and it holds thme just fine. If they have little calves with them you might want to dun another wire about 18 inches high to prevent the calves "forward grazing"
 
dun":2uw92p0b said:
For cows we use a single wire 28-32 inches high and it holds thme just fine. If they have little calves with them you might want to dun another wire about 18 inches high to prevent the calves "forward grazing"



Aren't we a little full of ourselves.. :lol2: :P sorry I am bored to death and could not resist my friend..... :lol2: :wave: :banana:
 
hillsdown":1s9z7d3a said:
dun":1s9z7d3a said:
For cows we use a single wire 28-32 inches high and it holds thme just fine. If they have little calves with them you might want to dun another wire about 18 inches high to prevent the calves "forward grazing"



Aren't we a little full of ourselves.. :lol2: :P sorry I am bored to death and could not resist my friend..... :lol2: :wave: :banana:
Sure don;t know where that came from. Mind must have really been wandering. Ah well, such is life. BTW, never hurts to poke a stick in it occasioanlly
 
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Dixieangus":2nfsw5gv said:
Electric fence- do you think that the stepin plastic posts for electrice fences can hold cattle that arent crazy. I think they may but thought they may be to short they are 46 in and i was thinking of putting 3 to 4 strands on them

The cattle temperament is certainly a consideration (re. article cited in recent posts by dun and dcara). If these are your own cattle and they have exposure to electric fence, I don't think there is any question about single wire at 30" on step-ins being plenty of fence. We have been using this kind of fence for at least 25 years now.

If you're getting in cattle not used to electric fence, it pays to train them in an enclosed area. The way we do it is run a piece of polybraid or tape about 2/3rds of the way across a corral or small grass trap with multi-wire electric fence perimeter. This way when new catttle come into the pen, their natural tendency to walk the perimeter brings them directly to the electric barrier fence. The first few will touch the fence and then the whole herd gets trained very quickly. Even with salebarn calves we have brought in that had never seen an electric fence we have 99%+ fence broke within three days.

I can only remember a couple of steers (out of several hundred) that we weren't ever able to break to electric fence. They also cleared 5-wire barb and field fences with no problem. You're better off to just shoot those ones rather than trying to mess with them. One wild steer in a herd of 100 actually lowers the performance and raises the costs on all the others.
 
1982vett":2td1m4qk said:
Dixie--If you don't already have the plastic step-ins, be aware that SOME of them have a tendency to get brittle in as little as a year and tend to snap off leaving a nice 2 inch spike that can be difficult to find (in some instances)without a tractor tire....
O'Brien step-ins are what we have been using since the late 1980's. One of the main reasons we use them is they don't get brittle. We regularly see -20 to -25F here and rarely do we break a post.

In my experience the Gallagher plastic step-ins are the worst for brittleness particularly in cold conditions. Dare, Stockmaster, PEL are similar in brittleness. Premier's are better than the previous three listed. Not as good as O'Brien but better than Gallagher. The steel pig-tail posts, of course, don't have any problems with brittleness in the post but the plastic insulation on the pigtails can get brittle and start to crack after several years.

A head's up for future reference, Gallagher bought out O'Brien earlier this year and are jacking up the prices on most O'Brien products. I have been told by people in the know that there will soon be posts and reels comparable quality to O'Brien available under other names as the O'Brien patents have expired.
 
I agree with Vette & JRG, The O'briens posts and reels are the only ones that I have not had problems with. If you want problems with your e-fence use inferior components. Be sure to get a high powered charger and plenty of ground rods. It is the heart of your fence. Most manufacturers overrate their chargers whether in acres or miles, so get one that is rated many times more than your planned fence.

Remember, e-fence is a mental barrier not a physical barrier. Train your cattle as JRG suggested and maintain a good, hot fence and it will do the job. If you cut corners it can be your worst nightmare.

Just my 2 cents worth.
 
Well folund what they call extra tall horse electric posts and after they are in the ground they are 4ft 6in so those will probably be the ones i buy but they were 20 for 43 dollars does any one know where i could get them cheaper
 
Dixieangus":3pueokxz said:
Well folund what they call extra tall horse electric posts and after they are in the ground they are 4ft 6in so those will probably be the ones i buy but they were 20 for 43 dollars does any one know where i could get them cheaper
check kencove.com
 
I used to run 2-3 wires with the reasoning that I needed one high enough that the cows wouldn't step over it and at least one low enough that the calves wouldn't go under, and one in the middle to keep calves from jumping through the middle. Here's what I now think (with regard to pulsed fences anyway)

1) The more wires you have the more chance there is that one of them is going to get knocked off and ground against the post which will short out the whole fence.
2) You will spend twice as much time fixing problems with a 2 wire fence as you will a one wire fence mainly because it shorts out twice as often
3) You will spend three times as much time fixing a 3 wire fence as you will a one wire fence for the same reason
4) Calves don't seem to care much about electric fences and so low wires don't seem to stop them.
5) Low wires (under 24 inches or so) are more susceptible to vegetation shorts in the spring and summer.
6) Low wires don't seem to deter hogs much either (inspite of what the local extension agents say)
7) Cows typically (mine anyway) test a wire they see with their nose first before trying to step over it. Wet noses make good electrical conductors and will persuade the cow not to cross it whether its knee high, or over their head.
8) One wire at about 30 inches is high enough to avoid most hog damage and vegetation shorts, is about nose high on a calf when it starts venturing away from mama and hopefully will encourage the calf to test it like mama (though I really haven't seen much proof of that yet).

In short, I think I am becoming a one wire man, one wire at a time.
 
I use "pigtail" posts. They are metal with a plastic coated top. They don't get brittle from cold or weathering and they are much easier to push into hard ground than the plastic posts. If the cattle (or deer or moose) run through the fen or put pressure on it they will just bend over or pull out; my old plastic ones just break. They are fairly easily straightened as well. They are heavier than the plastic, but stand up much better. The also only allow for a one wire fence, but that's all we use.
 

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