EID tags
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I ahve used some to sell calve at a special weaned calf sale. I don't know if they are worth it particualrly as an ID system. I use them because thye ask as part of a pilot program. I do receive data back on my calves free of charge that tells me how thye grew and graded at the house. I wouldn't use them if I did not participate in this program.
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aussie_cowgirl
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The farm i was working on used eid tags, infact my poddy has one lol. at the moment in australia, not many people use them so the technology to read the chips isnt common at sales etc. we only got them because the cattle association was trying to implement them. It is a good idea, except the tags we have here, makes it impossible to recognize any cow from another (number wise), as oppose to the large number ones. maybe i would hold off using them untill it becomes popular or until the cattle association over there enforce them.
CattleAnnie
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Just a quick question - how are EID different than RFID (we have these, but I'm not familiar with EID)?
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Cattle Rack Rancher
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That sounds like the new ID tags that they've come out with up here. They're just a little circular tag with a chip in it. I tagged my holdback calves with them and they work slick. They seem to lock in better than the visual ID tags we had before. I guess a person would need two tags per animal (EID and visual).
aussie_cowgirl
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ja. eid tag is just the same i guess. microchip tag essentially. they want all cattle tagged in the one ear so for those who tag left or right depending on sex it makes it difficult. I think they should make the eid tags as a FLAG tag so not only can they be scanned but they are practical at identifying in the paddock. :idea:
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I've seen ads for tags that are both a hang tag and EID. Don;t recall which company makes them but the next time I see the ad (if I remember, always and iffy thing) I'll post it.
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I noticed someone asked what the difference between RFID and EID tags are. My "real" job is in electronics and industrial automation, so I figured I'd chime in <grin>.
EID can refer to any type of electronic tagging mechanism, from barcodes to Smart Cards to radio frequency (RF) tags.
Radio Frequency IDentification (RFID) comes in two flavors currently: passive and acitve.
The passive RF devices have to be excited by an RF field in close proximity before they "chirp" their data - they have no internal (battery). A passive RFID tag is basically an LC tank circuit (capacitor-inductor network which resonates when excited with a specific frequency). The data on the tag is read-only - it can't be changed once the tag has been manufactured. An example is the majority of anti-theft tags used in stores. When you walk through the "pillars" at the front of the store, you pass through an RF field which will excite a passive RFID device (if it hasn't been erased by the sales person). The RF field scanning the device has to be within farily close proximity (a few feet) to read data from the device. The upside is these types of devices are very cheap. But not practical (in my opinion) for useful cattle tracking.
The more talked about technology nowadays is acitve RFID. Active devices have a battery of their own and "chirp" their data whenever they receive an signal to do so. The data storage can be dynamic, meaning the information on the tag can be changed or added to. Active RFID have a much longer range (currently exceeding 30') and can be dynamicaly "reprogrammed" to store additional information. But active RFID requires a power source, such as a battery, inside the device. The devices are much more expensive compared to passive RFID.
Regardless of whether passive or active technology is used, for comprehensive tracking of cattle around a feedlot lets say, would require a network of sensors. With acitve RFID, the number of sensors required is significantly reduced.
Manual scanning (ie with barcodes) still introuduces the problem of human error (missing an animal), and the data can't be changed or added to on the actual tag.
For anyone that's REALLY into this stuff, IEC SC 31, "Automatic Identification and Data Capture" sets the standards for RFID systems. ISO 11785, "Radio Frequency Identification of Animals", deals specifically with our industry. It's worth noting ya can't look at these standards for free - you have to buy them
...and they ain't cheap.
Canada will require by 1 September 2006 that all cattle leaving their herd have an RFID tag. Further info at http://www.canadaid.ca.
Mike Bishop - http://www.flbullrider.com - (and IEEE associate since 2000)
I'm now taking off my geek glasses and puttin' my cowboy hat back on 8)
EID can refer to any type of electronic tagging mechanism, from barcodes to Smart Cards to radio frequency (RF) tags.
Radio Frequency IDentification (RFID) comes in two flavors currently: passive and acitve.
The passive RF devices have to be excited by an RF field in close proximity before they "chirp" their data - they have no internal (battery). A passive RFID tag is basically an LC tank circuit (capacitor-inductor network which resonates when excited with a specific frequency). The data on the tag is read-only - it can't be changed once the tag has been manufactured. An example is the majority of anti-theft tags used in stores. When you walk through the "pillars" at the front of the store, you pass through an RF field which will excite a passive RFID device (if it hasn't been erased by the sales person). The RF field scanning the device has to be within farily close proximity (a few feet) to read data from the device. The upside is these types of devices are very cheap. But not practical (in my opinion) for useful cattle tracking.
The more talked about technology nowadays is acitve RFID. Active devices have a battery of their own and "chirp" their data whenever they receive an signal to do so. The data storage can be dynamic, meaning the information on the tag can be changed or added to. Active RFID have a much longer range (currently exceeding 30') and can be dynamicaly "reprogrammed" to store additional information. But active RFID requires a power source, such as a battery, inside the device. The devices are much more expensive compared to passive RFID.
Regardless of whether passive or active technology is used, for comprehensive tracking of cattle around a feedlot lets say, would require a network of sensors. With acitve RFID, the number of sensors required is significantly reduced.
Manual scanning (ie with barcodes) still introuduces the problem of human error (missing an animal), and the data can't be changed or added to on the actual tag.
For anyone that's REALLY into this stuff, IEC SC 31, "Automatic Identification and Data Capture" sets the standards for RFID systems. ISO 11785, "Radio Frequency Identification of Animals", deals specifically with our industry. It's worth noting ya can't look at these standards for free - you have to buy them
...and they ain't cheap.Canada will require by 1 September 2006 that all cattle leaving their herd have an RFID tag. Further info at http://www.canadaid.ca.
Mike Bishop - http://www.flbullrider.com - (and IEEE associate since 2000)
I'm now taking off my geek glasses and puttin' my cowboy hat back on 8)
Bama
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Thanks for the info. I also wear geek glasses from time to time. I also go as far as to carry a pocket protector. I can see where if this technology is used properly it will benefit all of us.
