rnh2
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Has anyone here used a drum mower? What's the good and bad?
rnh2":3nojkvkl said:How does windrow affect drying? A fellow on another forum said his drum mower with windrow spreader dried his hay faster than a moco
Texasmark":auefjzd3 said:I bought a 2 drum 6 footer maybe 10 years ago. Zero breakdowns, maintenance items. Few parts, what parts there are are husky. Blades are really cheap and easy to change. Lots of times I just take a grinder and polish off the edge.
Blades are two sided so when you wear out one side on drum A move them to drum B and wear out the other side. It will mow faster than you can stay in the seat, no clogs, no missed stems, no this and no that. Just a good cutter. If you want a taller stubble there is a 1" extension that is available, inserts between the drums and raises the top drum off the bottom 1" more. With this modification I had stubble heights of 4 ½-5" on sorghum sudan (it lays over to give you the extra length) when mowing fast. However, this doesn't cut very close on thin stems, like bermuda/millet. I recently took mine out as I am interested in a shorter cut on my horse hay patch and am up in the air as yet as to whether or not the extension will stay out.
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Cuts forward, backwards, wet or dry, in the water or out. Mine cuts 6' and fits my tractor wheel spacing and my other haying implements. A ww is produced by the blades, being 2 turning in opposite directions toward the center. My wws are such that my fat (16.9x28) tires will ride on raw ground, not on the ww (barely) and I have a nice clean edge to the uncut material for the next lap...no holidays.
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Mine weighs in at about 900#. Has 2 positions, inline to the rear for transport, or 90^ to the side for cutting....PTO shaft has to be removed to do this as the drive line is now 90 degrees from the tractor's. In the transport position (to the rear), weight is no biggie.
In the mow position with the mower off the ground there is a lot of influence to raise the left front tire (as is the case with any mower out to the side) so a good front end is necessary. 4wd and loader (which I never remove but do remove the bucket...quick attach skid steer type) on my 65 hp Branson is more than enough for reliable control with the 6' mower. In mow position the majority of the weight is sitting on the ground (tractor 3 pt part excepted).......bottom disc is independent of the drive mechanism for the top disc which contains the blades, and just scoots along the ground....no crop stubble damage noted with it doing that even though it does lay over as you pass.
An alternative and much better functionality is to replace the outer solid steel bar with a hydraulic cylinder. With that you lift the mower....still horizontal to make clearance for the inside of the inside drum and with the cylinder, suck up the outer end, much like you see done with disc mowers in the carry position. Fast, no PTO involvement, and no manual labor involved.
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Mine is made in Turkey by Agriproducts or something like that and sold by Small Farm Innovations in Caldwell, Tx. Phil, owner, is a super customer supporter. He brought mine to me, about 250 miles with some other things purchased from him at the time....reasonable shipping fee. There are others and all seem to be of the same basic, if not the same design.
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Like other mowers of the sort, they have a weighted curtain but it is of little use unless you are in tall, dense, growth....helps to block any flying objects. The forward movement of the tractor and suction produced by the blades turning inward tend to pull it back and thus exposing the blades on the outer drum which turn in toward the tractor. I have replaced my cab door glass (several years ago) and just this season the right rear cab glass, both rock strikes to the tempered safety glass of the cab.
I am currently building a shield that protrudes about a foot forward of the deflection bar-about 5' long on the mower, which extends out beyond the trajectory line of a rock coming off the tip of the outer drum. No biggie, a little 1"angle iron, box frame U bolted to the front bar and top shield of the mower covered with a piece of corrugated sheet steel like you use on roofs and sides of barns....all stuff lying around bar the hardware.
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I chose the drum over disc because when looking for an alternative to a !@#$%^&*()_+ sickle, every used DISC I saw for sale had brazed up cracks under the cutter bar, some still leaking oil, and every new one was at least twice the price and 4x the components of the drums. The drum has sealed drum bearings and the drive mechanism is on top of the mower out of harms way...very rugged, lots of oil, no leaks, no maintenance, no problem...... Additionally I preferred the accumulation of the grass (ww it makes as stated above for the reason stated above).
HTH
Mark
rnh2":19lbx2uj said:Thanks. My place has lots of rocks has been known to eat discs for breakfast. How do you like that Branson tractor? I've heard good things about them
callmefence":28w11mjk said:Texasmark":28w11mjk said:I bought a 2 drum 6 footer maybe 10 years ago. Zero breakdowns, maintenance items. Few parts, what parts there are are husky. Blades are really cheap and easy to change. Lots of times I just take a grinder and polish off the edge.
Blades are two sided so when you wear out one side on drum A move them to drum B and wear out the other side. It will mow faster than you can stay in the seat, no clogs, no missed stems, no this and no that. Just a good cutter. If you want a taller stubble there is a 1" extension that is available, inserts between the drums and raises the top drum off the bottom 1" more. With this modification I had stubble heights of 4 ½-5" on sorghum sudan (it lays over to give you the extra length) when mowing fast. However, this doesn't cut very close on thin stems, like bermuda/millet. I recently took mine out as I am interested in a shorter cut on my horse hay patch and am up in the air as yet as to whether or not the extension will stay out.
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Cuts forward, backwards, wet or dry, in the water or out. Mine cuts 6' and fits my tractor wheel spacing and my other haying implements. A ww is produced by the blades, being 2 turning in opposite directions toward the center. My wws are such that my fat (16.9x28) tires will ride on raw ground, not on the ww (barely) and I have a nice clean edge to the uncut material for the next lap...no holidays.
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Mine weighs in at about 900#. Has 2 positions, inline to the rear for transport, or 90^ to the side for cutting....PTO shaft has to be removed to do this as the drive line is now 90 degrees from the tractor's. In the transport position (to the rear), weight is no biggie.
In the mow position with the mower off the ground there is a lot of influence to raise the left front tire (as is the case with any mower out to the side) so a good front end is necessary. 4wd and loader (which I never remove but do remove the bucket...quick attach skid steer type) on my 65 hp Branson is more than enough for reliable control with the 6' mower. In mow position the majority of the weight is sitting on the ground (tractor 3 pt part excepted).......bottom disc is independent of the drive mechanism for the top disc which contains the blades, and just scoots along the ground....no crop stubble damage noted with it doing that even though it does lay over as you pass.
An alternative and much better functionality is to replace the outer solid steel bar with a hydraulic cylinder. With that you lift the mower....still horizontal to make clearance for the inside of the inside drum and with the cylinder, suck up the outer end, much like you see done with disc mowers in the carry position. Fast, no PTO involvement, and no manual labor involved.
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Mine is made in Turkey by Agriproducts or something like that and sold by Small Farm Innovations in Caldwell, Tx. Phil, owner, is a super customer supporter. He brought mine to me, about 250 miles with some other things purchased from him at the time....reasonable shipping fee. There are others and all seem to be of the same basic, if not the same design.
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Like other mowers of the sort, they have a weighted curtain but it is of little use unless you are in tall, dense, growth....helps to block any flying objects. The forward movement of the tractor and suction produced by the blades turning inward tend to pull it back and thus exposing the blades on the outer drum which turn in toward the tractor. I have replaced my cab door glass (several years ago) and just this season the right rear cab glass, both rock strikes to the tempered safety glass of the cab.
I am currently building a shield that protrudes about a foot forward of the deflection bar-about 5' long on the mower, which extends out beyond the trajectory line of a rock coming off the tip of the outer drum. No biggie, a little 1"angle iron, box frame U bolted to the front bar and top shield of the mower covered with a piece of corrugated sheet steel like you use on roofs and sides of barns....all stuff lying around bar the hardware.
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I chose the drum over disc because when looking for an alternative to a !@#$%^&*()_+ sickle, every used DISC I saw for sale had brazed up cracks under the cutter bar, some still leaking oil, and every new one was at least twice the price and 4x the components of the drums. The drum has sealed drum bearings and the drive mechanism is on top of the mower out of harms way...very rugged, lots of oil, no leaks, no maintenance, no problem...... Additionally I preferred the accumulation of the grass (ww it makes as stated above for the reason stated above).
HTH
Mark
One of the best post I've read in some time. Thanks for the work Tex..
rnh2":2bz47nr9 said:How does windrow affect drying? A fellow on another forum said his drum mower with windrow spreader dried his hay faster than a moco