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Arkieman

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kill cedars with chemical, wait a year and burn them standing?? Talked to a chemical rep he suggested Garlon 4L & diesel around the bottom of the trunk to kill the tree. We have a middle fence row that has some pretty good sized cedar on it. The whole pasture is only about 10 acres with this fenceline running through it. I think pushing them up will mess up more existing pasture than what they are taking up. I just wonder how much would burn?? Even if you were only able to burn the tops, it sure would make it easier to get to the trunk and less mess on the ground... Any thoughts??
 
The killing hem is no problem, Remedy and diesel will kill them dead. The burning them standing is the part I doubt. You would probably end up with staubs. I'll gaurantee the worst staub I've ever run over with anything was a cedar.
 
I agree Dun - but do you think it would be easier to deal with cutting what's left than wading off into it and cutting then burning? Here's a pic, the fencerow is in the background..
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I cut them off at the ground and then use them as post. A lot more work, but Im cheap like that. I dont cut anything down without trying to figure out how to get something useful out of it.
 
Last year I bought one of those on a pole. Handiest tool I've found for clearing cedars. As dense as those appear to be, if you got into one close enough that you could cut it off at the ground the others shouldn;t be too hard. If you're going to foliar spray vs basal sprray, remedy and water instead of deisel will do the trick. But is seems that there is some pelleted stuff that you can scatter under the trees around the drip line that will kill them. Don;t recall the name, never have used it.

dun
 
Don't mean to be a party pooper...lol...

But, how about leaving the cedars alone (they don't eat much) and using them for an excellent windbreak for your cattle? Personally, I'd love to have that windbreak up here in the Texas Panhandle!!

;-)
 
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This fence line divides a pasture that's only about 10 acres total... there are cedars around the edge of the 10 acre pasture for weather protection. This one used to be used to seperate them (for some reason)
 
Are you sure you don’t need them for shade and a source of a natural free insect repellent?

My cattle seek out cedar trees to get away from flies and other biting insects and they love to rub and lay under them.
Pine trees are always dropping little droplets of sap that is a natural insect repellent for them.
If you ever sit under one or parked your vehicle under one for any length of time, you will see what I mean.

If you really don’t need them and as it looks like you will have to cut your way into them to apply chemicals, just take a chainsaw instead, then push them up in a pile, let them dry for about 30 days and burn.

Otherwise just cut some bottom limbs off. About 4 ft high should do it.
 
Burning them standing is NOT a good idea. Dealing with half burnt tree trunks (assuming ALL the limbs are completely burnt off) is going to be one NASTY mess. If you want a preview -buy yourself a bag of charcoal and then stick your hands in the bag see how that works. It may be raining so pour some water in the bag first. I suggest push them into a pile and burn them.

Cuz
 
Mine winter in cedars like that - cows - calves and the odd yearling we look to keep - no bedding ever - just hay out from the bush.

Temps drop to minus 40 regularly.

Works like a charm for us. You want to drop cedars bring in a cat with a bush rake - even along the fence line the cat does a good job.

Bez>
 
CUZ":13bgbpq2 said:
Burning them standing is NOT a good idea. Dealing with half burnt tree trunks (assuming ALL the limbs are completely burnt off) is going to be one NASTY mess. If you want a preview -buy yourself a bag of charcoal and then stick your hands in the bag see how that works. It may be raining so pour some water in the bag first. I suggest push them into a pile and burn them.

Cuz

Good point! Do you think there would be enough on the trunk that you could push them w/ a dozer and pull the stump out? I'm renting this pasture and want to minimize the effect to the current pasture as much as possible. If a guy goes in w/ a dozer now, I believe the pile of trees & destruction will cover much of the pasture - rendering it useless to me until next year....
 
OK, I see what you are saying.
How about cut them down and burn them and renting a stump grinder. Or have someone come in with a stump grinder?
Should be cheaper than a doser.
 
I would try and burn them like they are, if you could get some of the lower branches gone it would be much easier to get to the trunks with a chain saw. Since they are in a fence row the stumps won't be a problem. If you cut them close to the ground I don't think a cedar will grow back from the stump.
 
Those are some pretty big cedars from the pic. I believe I would cut out branches up to 6 foot or so and just burn them in a pile.

RGV
 
i would recommend just limbing them up so they dont take up as much room and you can get around under them.
 
Thanks for the comments, but the landowner really wants the fence row gone - not just cleaned up. There's really no need for a fence there and it's just taking up space for grass... I'm trying to build a good relationship with him because he has quite a bit of acreage in the area that he currently leases for hay. I would like to get my foot in the door by showing him that I'm a good renter that will take care of his land.
 
Arkieman":29utvtr5 said:
Thanks for the comments, but the landowner really wants the fence row gone - not just cleaned up. There's really no need for a fence there and it's just taking up space for grass... I'm trying to build a good relationship with him because he has quite a bit of acreage in the area that he currently leases for hay. I would like to get my foot in the door by showing him that I'm a good renter that will take care of his land.

About the only option that I can see is a dozer, or good sized tractor with a loader and push them in a pile and burn them.
Cedars don't have big root system so they should come out easy. They will also come out the best when the soil is wet.
;-) Been there done that.
 
but the landowner really wants the fence row gone
WARNING! If you don’t have at least a signed 5 year lease, GET ONE before you spend a dime.
Or you may just be preparing the farm for his horses or someone who is willing to pay more, now that you have cleaned the place up.
Been there, done that!

I would like to get my foot in the door by showing him that I'm a good renter that will take care of his land.

OK, try this.
Cut them down, drag them close to the woods outside the parimator fence, rent a chipper and blow the chips into the woods.
Now go with the stump grinder then seed and mulch.
That would certainly impress me!
Good luck!
 
ok i would listen to these people and not cut them down!!! those are really nice lookin trees!!!!!! i would just cut a few down and put in a gate or two so you can open it up or whatever you want to do instead of cutting them all down. JMO
 

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