Diesel and Grain

[GMN]

Got grain today it went up another $100 since last time which was 2 weeks ago. Corn is still rising, plus all the vitamins and minerals also. Me thinks farmers are going to have to get radical on cutting feed costs.

Diesel went up from 2 days ago, it is now $3.79 a gallon. I always thought diesel should be cheaper than gas.

The world is a very crazy place.

GMN

 

[bigbull338]

how much are you giving for grain.yes time to dry up the tailend bred cows.an sale the open tail end cows.how meny pounds of feed a day are your milk cows consuming.an how much milk are your cows giving pre head a day.

 

[c farmer]

Diesel just went to 3.99 /gallon 2 days ago here.

 

[TexasBred]

Got grain today it went up another $100 since last time which was 2 weeks ago. Corn is still rising, plus all the vitamins and minerals also. Me thinks farmers are going to have to get radical on cutting feed costs.

Diesel went up from 2 days ago, it is now $3.79 a gallon. I always thought diesel should be cheaper than gas.

The world is a very crazy place.

GMN

Gail, hope you bought enough mineral for several months. It will take another jump 4/01 if not already. Phosphate going from $420 a ton to $670 and vitamins already thru the roof.

 

[larryshoat]

This fuel is just getting started good . As far as the grain, we are starting to see dried distillers grain come down, I think that is our only hope that they have so much of the stuff that we can name our price .

Larry

 

[TexasBred]

Larry I hope it lasts but sure can't count on it. We're working toward the tail end of last years corn harvest so it will continue upward at least until well into planting. As folks continue to look for alternative feeds the price supply and demand will kick in big time. One order from someone like ConAgra for 1000 railcars of the stuff and it will go thru the roof. :cry:

 

[GMN]

Larry I hope it lasts but sure can't count on it. We're working toward the tail end of last years corn harvest so it will continue upward at least until well into planting. As folks continue to look for alternative feeds the price supply and demand will kick in big time. One order from someone like ConAgra for 1000 railcars of the stuff and it will go thru the roof. :cry:

The people we get our grain from said his business has gone down in hte past month. I think this will be what it takes to bring the corn prices down, farmers are cutting back,and this will undoubtedly effect the corn prices in the future. Lets hope so anyways.

GMN

 

[mnmtranching]

There's something like 50 corn ethanol plants expanding or under construction plans. If corn does go down it will only be slightly at harvest then rise will continue to set record prices. Trust me.

Expect more wheat acres this year, and other small grains being at record prices will cut into total corn acres from 07. I would also expect a increase in soybean acres.

 

[TexasBred]

Gail down in this part of the country cattle folks pretty much quit supplemental feeding once there is the least bit of new green grass so yes, the feed store business will really fall off soon. But we are still using last years corn and the supply gets shorter and shorter. May '07 corn futures are at $5.76 per bushel at this moment, up over a dime from yesterday. Don't think you're going to see any possible down turn until Sept-Oct.

Keep squeezing. :lol2:

 

[t&d farms]

diesel prices here $3.95
off road diesel $3.75

price of gas jumped 8 cents today, $3.29

they say gas will hit $4 by summer, i believe them, its scary
:mad:

 

[c farmer]

Diesel just went to 4.09 a gallon, gas 3.29, almost cant aford to go to work anymore

 

[GMN]

Gail down in this part of the country cattle folks pretty much quit supplemental feeding once there is the least bit of new green grass so yes, the feed store business will really fall off soon. But we are still using last years corn and the supply gets shorter and shorter. May '07 corn futures are at $5.76 per bushel at this moment, up over a dime from yesterday. Don't think you're going to see any possible down turn until Sept-Oct.

Keep squeezing. :lol2:

You can quit supplemental feeding with beef but dairy you can't, they need some grain, even when on rotational pasture feeding.

GMN

 

[mnmtranching]

Gail down in this part of the country cattle folks pretty much quit supplemental feeding once there is the least bit of new green grass so yes, the feed store business will really fall off soon. But we are still using last years corn and the supply gets shorter and shorter. May '07 corn futures are at $5.76 per bushel at this moment, up over a dime from yesterday. Don't think you're going to see any possible down turn until Sept-Oct.

Keep squeezing. :lol2:

You can quit supplemental feeding with beef but dairy you can't, they need some grain, even when on rotational pasture feeding.

GMN

The folks with dairy cattle are getting a milk check.

 

[TexasBred]

MM, that's true but then dairy cattle eat 30 lbs. of grain a day plus an equal amount of hay, silage or whatever other types of roughage you feed, 365 days a year. Almost $6 per day for feed cost alone. And then you have huge utility bills, supplies to be purchased, fuel, equipment repairs and huge bills for vaccines and other treatments for "healthy" cows only. This doesn't count the ones that have real medical problems. Only way to even make them break even is to pay for no outside labor, have zero debt servicing, and forget about ever having anything new.

I work with a lot of dairy folks so have a soft spot in my heart for them. :heart:

 

[bigbull338]

with todays high costs of dairing it take 60lb a day ave to break even.an thats at $15/100 milk.an to make a living the breakeven is 70lbs a cow or better with a small debt load.with a heavy debtload you 80lbs or more a day to live.but you see when milk hits $20/100 or better everything gose up 40%.fresh cows go from $2000 to $2800.so you cant win for losing.

 

[TexasBred]

with todays high costs of dairing it take 60lb a day ave to break even.an thats at $15/100 milk.an to make a living the breakeven is 70lbs a cow or better with a small debt load.with a heavy debtload you 80lbs or more a day to live.but you see when milk hits $20/100 or better everything gose up 40%.fresh cows go from $2000 to $2800.so you cant win for losing.

You hit the nail on the head there. Can't believe what fresh cows are selling for. Anything with 4 spigots will bring $1800 and the really good ones are far higher. Even if you raise your replacements you'll have almost that much in them before the 1st squirt of milk hits the pipeline.

 

[t&d farms]

up again
gas $3.34
diesel $4.18
(im rounding up the .9)