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[kenny thomas]

Heifers are not for sale at this time. I think there is a commandment about not coveting your neighbor's heifers.

Yep, i broke that commandment for sure. Especially the pet thst that walked up to me as a calf.

 

[greybeard]

Lord, slaw is another thing all of the "not-from-around-here" folks are screwing up these days. The last 30 years or so, our part of the country has become infested with Yankees, Californians, foreigners and other such types. Moving here and STAYING here! Lots of them have gotten jobs in restaurants, or even opened their own, and waty too many do not know how to cook. They are doing unspeakable, horrible things to food....some I can't even bear to write about. One of the first things I noticed was they had NO CLUE how to cook beqaaqns, especially green beans! I remember the first time I ate at a diner these people from Vermont had bought. One I had eaten at al lof my life. When I ordered green beans, they brought out some that were half raw, crunchy, and had NUTS in them!! I motioned for Donna (the new owner) to come over and asked " What the h3ll is this? Did you run out of gas before you got them cooked?!! Who spilt chopped nuts in the pot?!!" She said she v cooked them like that on purpose!! So, I had to explain top her there is no nuts in grean beans. anmd yuou cook them til they are done , and use fat back or streak o lean in the pot! She cooks them right, now, thank God. But, about a year ago they added an all-you-can-eat catfish to their Friday night menu.. It was good! Maybe the best I have eaten! And the hushpuppies were probably the 2nd best I have eaten. But the slaw!!! When I saw it in the little bowl, I saw she had committed 2 misdemeanors. There were shredded carrots and purple cabbage in it. Slaw is cabbage, mayo, a little black pepper and a little sugar. That is it! So, I took a bite and *^&%$#!!! ..it lioke to have set my mouth on fire! She had used HORSERADISH SAUCE in stead of mayo! I choked and spit and tried to gulp my whole glass of tea, nut that's when I found out she didn't put sugar in her tea! She had committed TWO felonies that could have gotten her deported back across the M-D line! I told her to quick go back there and put some more tea on and pour that cold unsweet sh*t out, because you can't ass sugar after it is cold. aBut that concoction sjhe called slaw?!!! She said back where she was from l they wanted slaw to be hot (spicy). I said " Honey, in the 60 something years you lived up there, did you ever meet anyone from here, ALA, Tenn, etc, that had moved up there to live?:!!! She said no, not that she could recall. So I picked up and dropped the plate with the slaw and beans and said " THIS is probably why!!" And there;s other horror stories I will have to tell later. Like people putting LIMA BEANS in Brunswick Stew! Or potatoes!

This, is exactly how society falls into chaos and ruin. The Roman Empire stood for 1000 years and it's demise was brought about by conquering legions bringing in outside influences.

 

[greybeard]

I promise I won't try to re-invent the local cuisine when I get to Columbia, SC. Can I still relocate there?

We've all heard that before.
In a very few months, (if that long) you'd be saying "You know what would make this taste really good? If you'd add just a little _______ and a bit of _______ and season it with_______."

 

[Mark Reynolds]

I have a few friends out in that area. They have a uniquely large flea market that happens on the weekend I never stop in at but really would like to next time I'm down there.

I'll have to look that up

 

[Mark Reynolds]

We've all heard that before.
In a very few months, (if that long) you'd be saying "You know what would make this taste really good? If you'd add just a little _______ and a bit of _______ and season it with_______."

I don't do that. It tends to ruin good recipes. I might make a substitution ONLY if I don't have an ingredient (or if my daughters want some of the recipe to eat and the recipe calls for eggs, milk or honey) they are vegetarian.
As for altering or adulterating the recipes.......don't let my son touch it then. He LOVES 'improving' recipes, especially with hot peppers/hot sauce or the like. MUCH to the dismay of my mouth and taste buds. His attempts don't add any flavor it seems. It just adds a requirement of an additional glass of milk or 2.

 

[TexasJerseyMilker]

You mean vegans can't eat honey?

All these hot and hotter peppers--- I don't consider pain to be a flavor.

 

[simme]

I think any topic fits the original post. In regard to people moving into an area, that is about to affect me in a major way. I was a little fellow when my parents moved to this community in 1958. The road we lived on might have a dozen cars pass by on a busy day and you would know most everyone going by. Around 1960, two things happened that have been a bad influence on this area. The corp of engineers built a 56,000 acre lake with a 900+ mile shoreline. Then the interstate highway system added a 666 mile long (bad omen) highway through here. Both brought people here. LOT's more people now that want to live on or near the lake. But if you are about a 1/2 mile from the lake, the area here is still mostly rural with chicken farms, beef cattle and row crops. The largest town in the county has a population of less than 30,000 and it is by far the largest town in the county.

The "lake people" have decided that we need zoning here. Most of the county has no zoning other than the few towns. There are 250 acres of cotton behind my place and 150 acres of corn across the road. About 50 chicken houses within a 2 mile radius. So very rural. The law here says that a voting precinct can call for a referendum on zoning by getting 15% of the voters in that precinct to sign a petition for zoning. The referendum is tomorrow. 15% of the voters can cause a special election. There is only this one item on the ballot and the notice of the voting is only in the legal notices of the newspaper and the county planning department website. The working people probably do not even know they need to go vote. A map with the proposed zoning classification for each property was prepared by the people who put the petition together - not the county planning and development office. How can these people on the lake assign my zoning classification? I did call the planning department and they confirmed that this is the way it works.

You may have a vision of big expensive lake houses with well kept property. It is that way on much of the lake, but in this precinct that is not the case. Lots of old houses and mobile homes for the most part. Remember lake was built in 1960.

Wife and I will vote NO at 7 am tomorrow. These "special elections" are used to authorize bonds and higher taxes for new schools, pass additional special local sales taxes for pet projects, and apparently to vote in zoning. I suspect that less than 20% of the voters know there is a special election and less than 10% will vote. Working folks will be working while the retired and the troublemakers will determine our fate. That is my rant for today.

 

[Marie]

I'll have to look that up

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[Mark Reynolds]

You mean vegans can't eat honey?

All these hot and hotter peppers--- I don't consider pain to be a flavor.

You are correct about honey, because honey is made by bees (and actually bee saliva too I think). I have a hard enough time understanding why people want to be vegan when biologically we really aren't designed that way, although many of us can live comfortably that way. Supplements are required though because our bodies require components we get from meat that vegans have died from lack of. Let alone why some food items vegans say they can't eat because they aren't vegan.

I agree about the hotness of certain peppers. If they are adding flavor, they can be added. But just to add peppers to make food hot (and painful), WHY?

 

[Brute 23]

Peppers have tons of healing qualities. They have been used for centuries by people.

When they ban antibiotics... peppers will be a... hot... commodity.

 

[Mark Reynolds]

I think any topic fits the original post. In regard to people moving into an area, that is about to affect me in a major way. I was a little fellow when my parents moved to this community in 1958. The road we lived on might have a dozen cars pass by on a busy day and you would know most everyone going by. Around 1960, two things happened that have been a bad influence on this area. The corp of engineers built a 56,000 acre lake with a 900+ mile shoreline. Then the interstate highway system added a 666 mile long (bad omen) highway through here. Both brought people here. LOT's more people now that want to live on or near the lake. But if you are about a 1/2 mile from the lake, the area here is still mostly rural with chicken farms, beef cattle and row crops. The largest town in the county has a population of less than 30,000 and it is by far the largest town in the county.

The "lake people" have decided that we need zoning here. Most of the county has no zoning other than the few towns. There are 250 acres of cotton behind my place and 150 acres of corn across the road. About 50 chicken houses within a 2 mile radius. So very rural. The law here says that a voting precinct can call for a referendum on zoning by getting 15% of the voters in that precinct to sign a petition for zoning. The referendum is tomorrow. 15% of the voters can cause a special election. There is only this one item on the ballot and the notice of the voting is only in the legal notices of the newspaper and the county planning department website. The working people probably do not even know they need to go vote. A map with the proposed zoning classification for each property was prepared by the people who put the petition together - not the county planning and development office. How can these people on the lake assign my zoning classification? I did call the planning department and they confirmed that this is the way it works.

You may have a vision of big expensive lake houses with well kept property. It is that way on much of the lake, but in this precinct that is not the case. Lots of old houses and mobile homes for the most part. Remember lake was built in 1960.

Wife and I will vote NO at 7 am tomorrow. These "special elections" are used to authorize bonds and higher taxes for new schools, pass additional special local sales taxes for pet projects, and apparently to vote in zoning. I suspect that less than 20% of the voters know there is a special election and less than 10% will vote. Working folks will be working while the retired and the troublemakers will determine our fate. That is my rant for today.

Time has a way of changing things. You do likely have some things in your favor though. Your farm likely has "grandfathered" rights that these people who have put the petition together can't touch, no matter how hard or badly they want to, unless you let them.

 

[Jeanne - Simme Valley]

Mark - that's an interesting thought. Hope that will work for Simme

 

[simme]

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Might want to wait before visiting that flea market. We had some high winds through the area yesterday. Pictures of a section of the jockey lot today.

 

[Mark Reynolds]

Might want to wait before visiting that flea market. We had some high winds through the area yesterday. Pictures of a section of the jockey lot today.

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Hey! Air conditioning! (It will be a couple months yet before I will even have any time (or even be in SC) to go to the flea market.

 

[simme]

Time has a way of changing things. You do likely have some things in your favor though. Your farm likely has "grandfathered" rights that these people who have put the petition together can't touch, no matter how hard or badly they want to, unless you let them.

The property will be zoned residential/agricultural. House and farming allowed. So, present use is protected. But other uses (allowed under current lack of zoning) will be prohibited. Won't be able to open a butcher shop, a truck or equipment repair shop, a tire store, welding shop, B&B, convenience store, feed store, landscaping business, lumber yard, funeral home, sawmill, vet clinic, flea market, beer joint, motel, storage units, or anything else. Just a loss of private property rights.

 

[Mark Reynolds]

The property will be zoned residential/agricultural. House and farming allowed. So, present use is protected. But other uses (allowed under current lack of zoning) will be prohibited. Won't be able to open a butcher shop, a truck or equipment repair shop, a tire store, welding shop, B&B, convenience store, feed store, landscaping business, lumber yard, funeral home, sawmill, vet clinic, flea market, beer joint, motel, storage units, or anything else. Just a loss of private property rights.

I do see your point, but I'm going to say this: I think if you still want to do any of those things down the road, you very well may be able to. The difference is that you will have to 'ask permission' where as before you could do as you please at any point in time. I see it as an annoyance to be dealt with appropriately, not necessarily as a loss of property rights. It can have some positives as well. It can prevent that porn shop from being built next to your farm.

 

[simme]

I do see your point, but I'm going to say this: I think if you still want to do any of those things down the road, you very well may be able to. The difference is that you will have to 'ask permission' where as before you could do as you please at any point in time. I see it as an annoyance to be dealt with appropriately, not necessarily as a loss of property rights. It can have some positives as well. It can prevent that porn shop from being built next to your farm.

Yes, I understand the general process. Pay fees, fill out forms, surveyors, lawyers, public hearings, legal notices, signage around the site, letters to all property owners within a certain distance, review, discussion and vote by the planning and development county people, votes at 3 county council meetings - first, second and third reading, etc. A pretty big annoyance for sure. My neighbors as far as my eyes can see are farmers. They are unlikely to sell any land for any business that I would object to. I trust them to apply our own version of "zoning" by how we use the property more so than I will trust the county and the voters to look out for my rights. I am just not into the concept of "asking permission" about using my property. Maybe I will mellow out in my old age. But not likely.

 

[Big Creek]

Yes, I understand the general process. Pay fees, fill out forms, surveyors, lawyers, public hearings, legal notices, signage around the site, letters to all property owners within a certain distance, review, discussion and vote by the planning and development county people, votes at 3 county council meetings - first, second and third reading, etc. A pretty big annoyance for sure. My neighbors as far as my eyes can see are farmers. They are unlikely to sell any land for any business that I would object to. I trust them to apply our own version of "zoning" by how we use the property more so than I will trust the county and the voters to look out for my rights. I am just not into the concept of "asking permission" about using my property. Maybe I will mellow out in my old age. But not likely.

Your farmer neighbors probably won't be the problem like you say. The problems will start when your neighbors pass on and the kids that live in town and inherit their property only care about the money.

 

[simme]

Your farmer neighbors probably won't be the problem like you say. The problems will start when your neighbors pass on and the kids that live in town and inherit their property only care about the money.

The property behind me and the property across the road belong to the same family. They farm a couple thousand acres and most all of it is in conservation easements. Cannot be divided or developed. No additional houses or buildings. So, it can be sold, but those easements will go with the property forever, best I understand. When the town kids inherit and sell, they will be limited as far as buyers due to the easements.