Cow with squirts

[Tomcolvin]

I moved all cows about 2-/12 weeks ago on to new pasture where peanuts had been processed about 2 months ago. All has went well until today putting up a cross fence I notice one that had the squirts and is thin ( fell off on weight) . What can I do to help her? I moved in a hay roll and they all came to check it out they have been grazing what ever in in the pasture (peanuts and grass, weeds). Also I put out a 25 percent protein tube (200 lbs) last week end and it is almost gone. I only give them cow pellets twice a week just to keep them coming up to front gate so when I want to move them across road they will come up to feed pans near gate. Any thing I need to change in thei diets? I don’t have a head gate in this pasture.

 

[Silver]

Is she eating like she just can't get enough? Bottle jaw visible? How old is she? Just wondering about Johne's disease. Could be any number of things really, but thought I'd ask.

 

[Nesikep]

Don't know if you have any, but if you have some oat hay give them some of that.. tends to 'clog' them up a bit... Johnes is something to consider, fecal sample to a vet could help there.. is she eating and drinking well, doing cow things normally otherwise?

 

[Tomcolvin]

She is eating hay and grass, peanuts, eating the tub protein and drinking water I assume as the water hole is in the woods over the hill until I can set up a couple of bath tubs to keep water in. We also wondered about Cocci so I thought maybe with the tubs I could add some corrid to their water.
she was born on the farm about 2 years ago, she was a runt and still runty.

 

[Tomcolvin]

I caught at the hay bale by herself and gave her some pellet wormer and some cow pellets. Has a little matter in corner of the eyes. She ate all the pellets I gave her.

 

[JMJ Farms]

I’d catch her and worm her with a good drench or injectable wormer. Coccidia is a thought. Treating the water should fix that and I would probably do it as a precaution just in case.

 

[Chocolate Cow2]

I'd catch her and sell her. Something isn't right. If you've never dealt with Johne's disease, you can't imagine the h*ll it causes. If she has it, it's already too late as your herd is exposed.
Is she a cow you recently bought?
How long have you had her?
How old is she?
A screen door won't hold Johne's manure. It also has a stinky sweet smell. The smell will be different from what you've smelled before.
She'll eat just fine so you can't make an assessment from that.
She'll drink more water than the other cows. That would be one clue.
You can send in a manure sample test yourself. There are several excellent labs in northern states that test.
Colostrum obtained from dairies is a first point of contamination for beef herds.
Any more questions, ask. Been there. Got the t-shirt.

 

[Tomcolvin]

Thanks. I will try and get s sample today. Can my vet test this or does it need sending off.?

 

[Tomcolvin]

Do you have an address?

 

[Chocolate Cow2]

You can do it yourself. You'll need a new sealed red top test tube. The red tops are sterile with nothing added. Wear disposable gloves. If you can put her in a chute, reach inside her and get a small sample. The lab only needs a few cc's for testing. Open the test tube and deposit the sample inside. Replace the stopper. Label the tube. The lab will require it. If you can't get her to a chute, hopefully you can watch her and obtain a sample when she takes a dump. You'll have to be awfully careful to avoid soil contamination or it mixing with other manure. Here's a link to the lab I used. https://www.northstarcooperative.com/
My infected animal came here as a registered female bought at a production sale. I've spent thousands of dollars testing, selling and disinfecting. My last round of animals all tested clean.

 

[Chocolate Cow2]

Based on the 2007 Dairy NAHMS study, about 68 percent of U.S. dairy herds have at least one cow that tests positive for Johne's with herd prevalence approaching 100% in large dairy herds.

You can do a blood test. It's not as accurate as the fecal but I believe it's quicker.

 

[Chocolate Cow2]

https://johnes.org/
More information.

No one can diagnose your cow from a computer screen. I'm willing to share my 'up-close experience' and 'expensive education'.

 

[Tomcolvin]

Don't know if you have any, but if you have some oat hay give them some of that.. tends to 'clog' them up a bit... Johnes is something to consider, fecal sample to a vet could help there.. is she eating and drinking well, doing cow things normally otherwise?

Can a vet do this type of test?

 

[kenny thomas]

I'm not familiar with grazing the peanuts but turning into fresh paddock with green grass and they will run after every sprig of grass and it's so much water that it goes straight through them and they loose weight. Testing isn't a bad idea but until then put some dry hay out and see if it gets more solid.

 

[Tomcolvin]

What about giving her some bolus pills along with some cow pellets. The bolus are probiotics tabs. It says 4 for a cow. I know I need the fecal but in the mean time maybe this won’t hurt? Do you think I could wipe some peanut butter on the broken bolus and mix in with some cow feed she would eat them? I am also going to mix corid in the drinking water in the morning.

 

[kenny thomas]

It won't hurt her for sure.

 

[TCRanch]

What about giving her some bolus pills along with some cow pellets. The bolus are probiotics tabs. It says 4 for a cow. I know I need the fecal but in the mean time maybe this won’t hurt? Do you think I could wipe some peanut butter on the broken bolus and mix in with some cow feed she would eat them? I am also going to mix corid in the drinking water in the morning.

Most of my girls will just eat boluses if I hand feed them with cubes but I've also broken them, added to cubes with mosassas drizzled over them or hid them inside a Twinkie or hot dog bun. Probiotics certainly won't hurt, may help, but I'd try Sustain cattle boluses if you have them.

 

[Chocolate Cow2]

Tom, you haven't said how old this cow is and if you bought her. That would sure help.

 

[Silver]

Tom, you haven't said how old this cow is and if you bought her. That would sure help.

she was born on the farm about 2 years ago, she was a runt and still runty.

 

[Nesikep]

Don't know if you have any, but if you have some oat hay give them some of that.. tends to 'clog' them up a bit... Johnes is something to consider, fecal sample to a vet could help there.. is she eating and drinking well, doing cow things normally otherwise?

Can a vet do this type of test?

They should be able to look under a microscope, maybe do a culture... that would be a start anyhow