convinced I am on right track

[JHH]

After going to sale barn and seeing the poor quality I am convinced I am on the right track.
Lots of poor doing funnel butted pos cows.

 

[UG]

Some of the "pos" cows may be funnel-butted because they are old and wore out after 14 to 20 years of producing a heavy baby every year. Conversely, some of those heavy, "pretty", big-middle cows that look like they could compete in the show ring, don't milk very well, and end up raising a dud calf. Oh, and several of those big, pretty cows don't breed back on time and end up getting rolled from the spring to the fall, or vice versa.

Give me an old "pos" cow that weans a big calf every year, rather than that pretty girl who weans 38% of her body weight, and produces a calf every 18 to 20 months like clock-work.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

Yep, the ugly one's can live on scrub brush for 20 years, and give you calf every year but the first 2.

Are they poor quality, or just looking for opportunity?

 

[AdamsCreek]

Some of the "pos" cows may be funnel-butted because they are old and wore out after 14 to 20 years of producing a heavy baby every year. Conversely, some of those heavy, "pretty", big-middle cows that look like they could compete in the show ring, don't milk very well, and end up raising a dud calf. Oh, and several of those big, pretty cows don't breed back on time and end up getting rolled from the spring to the fall, or vice versa.

Give me an old "pos" cow that weans a big calf every year, rather than that pretty girl who weans 38% of her body weight, and produces a calf every 18 to 20 months like clock-work.

I'm in the middle of learning this same lesson. Bought a slick jet black 3 year old beauty queen that barely makes enough milk for your frosted flakes every morning.

 

[JHH]

Some of the "pos" cows may be funnel-butted because they are old and wore out after 14 to 20 years of producing a heavy baby every year. Conversely, some of those heavy, "pretty", big-middle cows that look like they could compete in the show ring, don't milk very well, and end up raising a dud calf. Oh, and several of those big, pretty cows don't breed back on time and end up getting rolled from the spring to the fall, or vice versa.

Give me an old "pos" cow that weans a big calf every year, rather than that pretty girl who weans 38% of her body weight, and produces a calf every 18 to 20 months like clock-work.

Well there MIGHT HAVE BEEN a hand full of cows over 12 . Most were4-7 and the amount of bad bulls shocked me.

My cows work to stay. I dont raise to many show calves and I still think I am heading right.

 

[AllForage]

Some of the "pos" cows may be funnel-butted because they are old and wore out after 14 to 20 years of producing a heavy baby every year. Conversely, some of those heavy, "pretty", big-middle cows that look like they could compete in the show ring, don't milk very well, and end up raising a dud calf. Oh, and several of those big, pretty cows don't breed back on time and end up getting rolled from the spring to the fall, or vice versa.

Give me an old "pos" cow that weans a big calf every year, rather than that pretty girl who weans 38% of her body weight, and produces a calf every 18 to 20 months like clock-work.

Boy this a drastic assumption!!! Jay ain't talking about breeding beauty queen fluff and puffers.

You see to be successful all you need to do is buy those pos sales barn floozies then take an AI class. That is the recipe to success.

 

[UG]

Sorry AllForage,

I didn't mean to imply that all sale barn "pos" cows were good. I was only making the point that we can't assume that every skinny, funnel-butted cow at the sale barn is a lousy cow.

There have been several times when I have taken a trailer load of cull cows to the sale barn and the ugliest, skinniest, "funnel-butted" cow was the one that gave me ten calves in a row. On that same trailer is a beautiful, big-ribbed, easy-fleshing young cow that is being culled after just her second calf because either her calves were dinks or she didn't breed back.

The point that I was trying to make is we can't evaluate cattle simply on their looks.

 

[skyhightree1]

Boy this post sure sounds like half a million others on here. The truth of the matter is their is good cows there at the barns and there is bad.

 

[JHH]

Boy this post sure sounds like half a million others on here. The truth of the matter is their is good cows there at the barns and there is bad.

Never said there wasn't good ones at the barn stated that there were lots of them not All of them.

The mafia around here continues I see.

As a matter of fact I seen a few angus influenced ( may have been all ? ) that were what I would call a good deal. But they were and are wrong color for me.

AND I AM SURE THEY WERE ALL NOT SOUND

 

[highgrit]

I think your a year or two late on your assumption. Most of the good cattle have already been run through the sale barn. I've culled more cows than I should of because of the record prices.

 

[gizmom]

We sent five today, sometimes the cows aren't all that bad but cash flow is. One has bad feet (second calf, first calf was steered) calf went with her. One old cow that I love but lost her calf this year and hasn't bred back but she is fat and slick. One heifer that lost her calf she is short bred and one open heifer (we have witnessed the heifer bred 3 times just hasn't stuck) she may actually be bred now but not soon enough to market off the farm. Other than the one with bad feet someone might get hold them and make some money.

gizmom

 

[ALACOWMAN]

After going to sale barn and seeing the poor quality I am convinced I am on the right track.
Lots of poor doing funnel butted pos cows.

.' Here' at a regular weekly sale..those culls ain't a good place to compare notes..

 

[Alan]

I think your a year or two late on your assumption. Most of the good cattle have already been run through the sale barn. I've culled more cows than I should of because of the record prices.

X2, for as long as these prices have been holding I'm sure many, like me, have culled down to the bare minimum. I did it 6 or 7 months ago and kept my best.

JHH, as one wise female member once said in a post here .... A few years ago ....... "The only persons opinion I care about is my own."

I know I'm happy with where my cattle program is and I don't need or want criticism from others. Years of learning from great minds, some still here and many gone. Bottom line I too I'm going in the right direction and I'm happy.

:tiphat: Alan

 

[ALACOWMAN]

Not arguing. But it seems that when some dont care about opinions is,when they hear ones they don't like.. If say my neighbors don't like what I'm doing that's different.. But if I post questions or picss on a forum I expect to see all kinds of em..