Thanks, but we all know who the real guru's here are. I just happen to be someone with over a thousand post. I have been around cattle pretty much all of my like. I have learned more here over the course of a few months than I have attributed. I enyoy hearing how folks do things in differant parts of the country. I have been doing something for years and have read about someone doing it in a much better way. Its amazing how people can learn from others. Those that know me know I am reluctant to change something that has worked for years. (Read into this stubborn cuss). Reading how others do things has been an insight. I guess the thanks goes to Macon for making this all possible and to ya'll for making it happen. Ya'll keep the information flowing and maybe someday I will deserve the title.